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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted 22:28, 29 April 2008.

List of Minnesota Wild players

Another NHL player list to nominate. It's fairly similar to List of Columbus Blue Jackets players in that both teams joined the league in the same year and have comparable numbers of players. Comments welcome. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Avoid wikilinking the bold title in the lead, per WP:LEAD
  • Those two pictures of the goalies make the table shift half-way down the screen
  • "1999–00" should be "1999–2000"
  • "2000–01, then "2000–2001". Be consistent

That's all I can see. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 07:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All fixed up. Kaiser matias (talk) 19:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
Removed
  • Says it was founded in 2000 but joined the NHL for the 1999-2000 season. The last sentence of the first para in the lead and the first sentence of the second para have significant overlap - I'd consider reworking it a bit. Oh, and "eight" goaltenders, not 8.
Fixed
  • Don't force image sizes per WP:MOS#Images - use upright as your size parameter. And put the images in the right section - the first goaltender overlaps a section boundary.
Don't quite understand the size issue your talking about, but removed the two images. There weren't any problems on my screen, and were in the proper spot, but are gone regardless.
  • References 2 and 3 need full stops.
Done
  • Image captions, when complete sentences, need full stops.
Done
  • "during 2007-08 season" all instances of this should use the en-dash as separator.
  • Same for 2006-07, should read as 2006–07. The whole of the Skaters table seems to need to be remedied.
All fixed
  • Pity you haven't got more images for such a lengthy table...
It is a problem I'll agree, but is all that are available. One of the reasons why I waited this long to nominate it was to find more images to use.
  • Seasons in the table are e.g. 2000-2001 while seasons in the lead are 2000-01. Be consitent.
Is consistent now
  • Empty cells in the Goaltender key table should be removed.
Thats there partly for uniformity, and partly because I haven't a clue how to change it.

That's all from me for the moment. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've addressed all your concerns. Kaiser matias (talk) 19:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Many links go to redirect pages. --Krm500 (talk) 11:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you think you could give an example? Kaiser matias (talk) 23:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That's mostly names with diacritics: Peter Bartos, Niklas Backstrom. Gimmetrow 06:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment calling the team "the" Minnesota Wild seems a colloquialism, borne out by the list title. Suggest dropping all the "the"s! --Dweller (talk) 15:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose—Criterion 2a and the requirement for "professional standards of writing".

  • Is NHL Canadian or US? I think it should inserted just before the first mention, since many readers won't remember that Minnesota is a US state.
  • "players that have played"— "who"; they're not robots. Players ... played is a little tedious. "participated"? "appeared in"?
  • In both the lead and the tables, there's inconsistent use of two- and four-digit closing year ranges. Space limitations suggest that two would be preferable, and neater to boot.
  • MOS breach: "from 2000–2001"—nope, when one preposition is spelt out, we need "to" in the middle.
  • MOS breach: hyphen used in a year range (at least three instances).
  • Should "References" be "External references"? Unsure. I assume there's a good reason that the three titles of the three links there are identical. Shouldn't the owner of the second sourced site be the NHOF?
  • "The Wild have a rotating captaincy, with a different player being named captain each month." --> "The Wild have a monthly rotating captaincy."
  • Just a visitor's query: why do the keys have to be in a tiny font? It's not as though there's a space crisis there.
  • "the first year of the season of the player's first game and the last year of the season of the player's last game" of the ... of the ... Can it be straightened out? "the year of the player's first game"? (I may be suffering from non-expert status, though.)
  • The lead does seem a little short and choppy—three parastubs. 2a: "a concise lead section that summarizes the scope of the list and prepares the reader for the higher level of detail in sections subsequent to the lead." Was the information it contains selected arbitrarily? To what extent should a brief overview of the topic be given in a list (as opposed to the related article)? I'd have thought a bit more of the big-picture; it seems to be pitched at experts alone. Is the team a notable one in the US? Capture general readers' interest? Or tell me whether FLCs do not have to be stand-alone pages with a sense of wholeness, but are always assumed to be arrived at from (and dependent on) a related article? TONY (talk) 17:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with two caveats:
    • Shouldn't use the abbreviation "Stats", use statistics
    • Pierre-Marc Bouchard has spent his entire NHL career with the Wild, joining the team in 2002. should be reworded, maybe something like Bouchard joined the Wild in 2002, and has spent his entire NHL career with that team.
  • Tuf-Kat (talk) 19:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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