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List of MLS Cup finals

Featured list candidates/List of MLS Cup finals/archive1

Nominator(s): Sounder Bruce 08:12, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The greatest soccer championship in the non-soccer half of North America, featuring a mix of international and American sports heritage. As such, this list is based on other soccer cup lists, with a few elements taken from the NFL's Super Bowl list. Sounder Bruce 08:12, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think for accessibility there should be a symbol for the related wins rather than bold or italics.
I read "major U.S. expansion team" and was wondering what a minor expansion team was. After looking at the source this should specify this is for across all the major sports, not just MLS.
I don't see any other issues, looks great! Reywas92^Talk 19:56, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Reywas92 and ChrisTheDude: Added symbols and colors for the remaining key elements. I'm having trouble deciding what to label a dual Supporters Shield-USOC winner as (in terms of color), but feel that the Supporters Shield should take precedent. The expansion team bit has also been fixed. Sounder Bruce 02:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think indicating them with font, symbol, and color is overkill and a little cluttered, but you can do as you like here and I support Reywas92^Talk 21:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
- "The league also awards the Supporters' Shield to regular season winners." - needs rewording, as it could be interpreted that a Shield is given to all teams that win matches during the regular seasons
- "Eight teams have also won "the double", claiming the MLS Cup and either the Supporters' Shield or U.S. Open Cup" - need to mention the Canadian Championship as well as the US Cup?
- "Sixteen of the league's 23 teams" - aren't there 24 teams in MLS?
- "The New England Revolution have appeared......but has" - bit of a grammar disconnect here
Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:41, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the comments. I have fixed the inconsistencies and omissions that you mentioned. As MLS had 23 teams during the 2018 season (increasing to 24 in 2019 and 26 in 2020), I've added an "as of" to the statement. Sounder Bruce 01:12, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @SounderBruce: - nice one. I didn't bother re-stating them, but I also endorse Reywas92's two points, so as and when those are addressed I will be happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:56, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 22:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – The Red Bulls fan in me wants to cry at the sight of this list. Oh well, here goes...

The photo in the lead needs a period at the end, as it qualifies as a full sentence.
- Fixed.
Bolding for emphasis is discouraged by the Manual of Style, so you'll have to find another way to emphasize those entries. I'd recommend italics, but you're already using them. You could try removing the italics from the cup winners and just going with the color and symbol for those.
- Seeing as other sports lists don't use the symbol-and-formatting combination, I've removed the bolding entirely. I've also made Italics only for teams that have won the Treble, which could be switched over for an eventual CCL winner.
Results by team: Is there any reason that the Galaxy have "has" after their name when the other teams have the plural "have"?
- Fixed.
MLS Cup 2018 isn't linked in the Portland cell of this table, unlike the other losses.
- Fixed.
Stadiums: As an abbreviation, NFL should probably be spelled out.
- Fixed.
Minor point, but ref 24 needs an en dash in the title to replace the hyphen. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:28, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed, though I might replace this one with a higher-quality source if one can be found.

@Giants2008: Thanks for the review. For what it's worth, I like you guys far more than NYCFC, or DC for that matter. Sounder Bruce 06:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One more item to report upon checking the fixes: the symbol for the U.S. Open Cup and Canadian Championship winners is now gigantic. I know it wasn't like this when I first reviewed the article, so it's possible somebody edited that template, but either way it needs to be shrunken to normal size. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008: Looks like it was a template issue, as someone replaced the raster symbol with an SVG, but forgot to account for size. I've fixed the template, so we should be good to go. Sounder Bruce 22:23, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support – The symbol is back to normal size, and all of my concerns have now been resolved. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:15, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comments~~ Support - queries below....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The playoffs tournament is organized by the league at the conclusion of the regular season in a format similar to other professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada... - why not just say "end of the regular season" (alot of "conclusion"s in this bit...)

Second para: The MLS Cup was established in 1996 and originally hosted by a predetermined neutral site selected ... - be better to diversify the starts of the paras - this one can be: "Established in 1996, the MLS cup was originally hosted by a predetermined neutral site selected... "

~~Otherwise~~ looks ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Casliber: Thanks for the notes. I've implemented both changes, with my own modifications. Sounder Bruce 01:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --Pres N 20:23, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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