Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 06:51, 10 July 2008 [1].

List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

This is the 5th Green Bay Packers-related list I bring before the community. User:Milk's Favorite Cookie and I, in conjunction with the Tzatziki Squad, would appreciate any comments or suggestions to help improve a list we feel already meets the featured criteria. Thank you for your time. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• Publishers don't need to be italicized if they aren't publications.
• "[b] [18]" – has a space but – "[d][21]" – does not. I suggest going the route of having no space.
• Other than that, this list looks good. Great job!

Gary King (talk) 01:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the second one, but could you explain the first. I assume you are talking about the text that goes into the "work=" parameter in {{Cite web}}. If this is what you are talking about, how can I change it from not being italicized? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec)Fixed. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change "work" to "publisher". Gary King (talk) 01:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MFC, and thanks for reviewing Gary. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Support This looks good now. Gary King (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comments
  • Get rid of the period in the caption of the lead image.
    • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:MOS#Images recommends lead images of at least 300px.
    • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lambeau's caption should have a period.
    • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "second most regular season (630) and overall victories (654) " this is going to need to be updated on a game-by-game basis which would make the list a little bit unstable.
    • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can we widen the cols - the name col and the position col just wrap over occasionally for me and you should have plenty of space to avoid that.
    • Fixed, hopefully. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • [5] has Pro Football Hall of Fame in italics as source, [6] has profootballhof in italics while [7] etc has ProFootballHoF.com not in italics. All are referring to the same source.
    • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there an NFL list category you could add this to?
    • None that I am aware of. To the best of my knowledge this is the first list of its kind. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for the review TRM. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• "The first two decades of the Hall of Fame's existence saw 17 separate Packers enshrined," I didn't expect them to be conjoined.
  • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 23:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• "including the only inductee to not play for the Packers, Vince Lombardi." What does this mean, that in the first two decades, only one non-Packer was inducted?
  • It means he never played for them, he was a coach. The next sentence explains that, but I have reworded it to make it a little clearer. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 23:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for the review Matthew. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 23:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome. I've only got one more thing -- I'm pretty sure sacks is the wrong link. If not, what does it mean? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Good catch, relinked to Quarterback sack. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• In the {{cite web}}s, you need to properly distinguish between 'work' and 'publisher', they're not interchangeable depending on what typeface you want them to appear in. For example, in your ref #1, you correctly have Packers.com as a work (the publisher would be Green Bay Packers). However in ref #2, you have NFL as a work, which it isn't; the work, for that item, would be NFL.com or NFL official site, and NFL is its publisher. ProFootballHof.com is a work whose publisher is Pro Football Hall of Fame; if you don't want it to appear in italics, change it to Pro Football Hall of Fame, the name of the publisher. Sorry if this comes across as petty, but for featured content it needs doing right.
  • Fixed, all consistently "publisher=". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 00:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Super Bowl and NFL Championships only need wikilinking once each in the lead.
  • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Bearing in mind this is also supposed to make sense to non-Americans who don't follow American football, what does all-time mean in "the NFL's all-time offensive tackle Cal Hubbard"? Or could it be linked to something that would explain it to the ignorant foreigner? Likewise Most Valuable Player (the NFL's? the Super Bowl's?) and "1931 All-NFL player".
  • I linked MVP to National Football League Most Valuable Player Award. The other two, including the MVP one, are referenced to the ref link found after each statement. The "1931 All-NFL player" was just a title that given out before All-Pro I believe, and I imagine "the NFL's all-time offensive tackle" is in reference to a team that the NFL chose as it's best players. Both statements are referenced, but I can't seem to find anything on the 'pedia to explain them. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Those footnotes which say "minor portion of their career" should read "of his career".
  • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• I'd prefer the name column to be left-aligned; it's tidier and (IMO) more readable that way.
  • Left-justified. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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