Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Hi-5 discography/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 23:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Hi-5 discography

Featured list candidates/Hi-5 discography/archive1

Nominator(s): SatDis (talk) 11:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because Hi-5 is a very popular musical group in Australia and they have been prominent in the charts since 1999. I think there is a lot of interesting information to tackle, and therefore I think the article could easily be worked to be listed as a feature list. SatDis (talk) 11:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:12, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The group have released five Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA) certified gold, platinum and double platinum albums in Australia." a bit odd, perhaps just say "Five of the group's albums have been certified..."
"The album earned a two-times platinum ARIA..." The album was certified double-platinum...
What is "Series number"? I haven't seen this in a discog before.
And why is one 5&6 and one 14&15 and one doesn't have one at all?

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:50, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for your feedback, I have addressed those issues. I have removed the "series number" completely from the page (I had forgotten to do this earlier). It was essentially what television season/series the album corresponds with (Hi-5 is also a television series). SatDis (talk) 08:23, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jimknut

Notes from Jimknut

If you are going to make the charts sortable then you need to correct the sortabilty:

The bottom line ("—" denotes items which were not released in that country or failed to chart.) needs to be made so that it stays at the bottom. To do this go to the break line and add "class="sortbottom"".
I suggest changing release dates from "Released: 19 September 2003" (as an example) to "{{start date|2003|09|19|df=y}} (release date)".
You may also need to use the start date template for the chart position columns so that the numbers ascend or descend in chronological order.

Other notes:

The Reissues chart does not need to be sortable as their is only one entry.
Likewise, " the line ""—" denotes items which were not released in that country or failed to chart" is not needed since that one entry did chart. Jimknut (talk) 23:42, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimknut: Thankyou for your feedback, I have addressed these issues. I might just need clarification/help in your point of using the start date template for the chart position. Thanks. SatDis (talk) 23:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The sorting by date still does not work correctly (which indicates a faultiness with the template design and not with anything you have done). If you don't get anymore feedback I would suggest dumping the sorting altogether (most if not all of the Wiki discographies do not use it). Jimknut (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimknut: I have removed the sorting, it was not something I particularly liked anyway. All issues now resolved. SatDis (talk) 23:58, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Aoba47

Comments from Aoba47

Would you define Hi-5 as a "pop music group"? I know that the primary genres listed on the group's main page are children's and edutainment, but there are several references in the body of the same article referring to its material as pop music. I am only asking this as I was wondering if this should be categorized using Category:Pop music group discographies?
In the Infobox box image, you should identify where they are performing. I would revised the caption to say something along the lines of "The original members of Hi-5 performing in concert in Wellington, New Zealand in 2006". You can keep the member's names in parenthesis as it is helpful for an unfamiliar reader.
Add "the" in front of the Australian Recording Industry Association in the first paragraph of the lead.
I would encourage you to sell out the word number rather than abbreviate as No. for a more formal and appropriate tone for the site.
You use a few repetitive sentence structures in the lead and I would suggest adding variety. For instance, the two sentences about the release of "It's a Party" starts with the similar phrase "The album was..."
I am not a fan of how the release dates for same albums are placed in parenthesis after the title and others are put in the text. Be consistent one way or the other for all of them.
I would suggest combining the last two paragraphs as they are rather short.
The second sentence in the lead's third paragraph reads rather awkwardly as it quickly jumps from one idea to the next without a transition or flow. You want this to be a strong narrative documenting the group's releases so avoid making the lead sound like it is jumping around or listing ideas.
Revise the last sentence in the lead's third paragraph. "a which was a record at the time" is not grammatically correct and needs to be redone. I get the idea, but the wording needs to be improved.
Remove "most recently" in the two instances you use it as it is unnecessary when you give the date.
I do not believe the (sales thresholds) is necessary in the charts. I have never seen it used in a FL for an artist's discography.
iTunes Store should not be italicized in the references.

@SatDis: Good job with the list. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this. If possible, could you possible review my FLC for Alyssa Milano discography? I know it is a busy time of the year, so I understand if you do not have the time or interest of doing this. Let me know if you have any questions about my comments. Aoba47 (talk) 18:57, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- @Aoba47: I would describe them as a pop group for children, yes. I've added the category. I also might add Pop to the main page.
- I've added Wellington. For the main page I was advised to keep it succinct, hence why the location wasn't included.
- I guess the (sales threshold) was there for reference, but I've removed it now.
- All phrasing issues and other comments addressed.
- Thankyou for your feeback, I myself don't feel qualified enough to take a look at your page but I definitely will have a go at leaving feedback when I get the chance. SatDis (talk) 01:42, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support this nomination. Wonderful job with this list! Aoba47 (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Ianblair23

Comments
@SatDis: This is looking good, SatDis. I have corrected a few links in the list and corrected the formatting of the single Santa Claus Is Coming (see diff). My only comments are:

the image alt text needs to be trimmed down, it should be no longer than ten words.
Australian Recording Industry Association needs to be unlinked in refs 4 and 5
ITunes Store needs to be unlinked from ref 10 onwards
"Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA)" in ref 2, dot points 2, 3 and 4 can just be written as "ARIA" as this was defined in lead sentence.
Repeat for refs 7 and 8
Refs 3-5 can simply be "ARIA" as well.
For ref 6 add "Trellian" as the publisher.
In notes a and c unlink Catalogue Albums Chart
Link DVD in the Reissues table
In the Singles table:
- Change the header of column 2 from "Album details" to "Singles details".
- Add ref to support the original release year of 1999 (Question: Is only the year known, not the day and month?)
For the refs which are pdfs add "#page=" and the pdf page number at the end of the url for the page or pages parameter. For example http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/23790/20041220-0000/issue774%20issue775.pdf#page=6 will take to directly to page 6 of the document. Refer to this diff.

Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 08:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC) dback. All of that has been addressed. The only issue I have is proving the 1999 single of "Santa Claus is Coming". Only the year is known (and we can assume it was around Christmas time)... It definitely existed though, due to the charting details. And I personally know it existed too. No information online though. Thanks again.SatDis (talk) 09:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@SatDis: Excellent! Thanks SatDis. I would still like to see a ref for the single. Now, I have found the single being sold on eBay here and I have found it listed in Trove with the year 1999 here. Please add the Trove link or find another source as the ref. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 10:04, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thankyou @Ianblair23: for the Trove link! Sometimes fresh eyes can find new things. I've added it now. SatDis (talk) 12:18, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. @SatDis: Great job SatDis. Keep up the great work! Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 12:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Just a couple of small issues to report from my look at the list.

~~The lead has a few "also"s, which are usually redundant in nature. See if you can trim a couple of them.~~
~~Note d: Minor, but the comma should probably be a semi-colon instead.~~ Giants2008 (Talk) 03:23, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou @Giants2008: for your comments. They have been addressed. SatDis (talk) 03:36, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support – My couple of comments have been resolved and the list looks to meet FL standards. Nice job here. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:05, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Hi, the bot has not closed the nomination page and added the star yet; when should I expect this might happen? Thankyou for the promotion of the article. SatDis (talk) 10:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why the 'bot hasn't done that. Sorry, we'll need to look into it. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate it! @The Rambling Man: SatDis (talk) 10:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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