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AAA Mega Championship

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Nominator(s): WillC 03:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list with @MPJ-DK: because I feel it meets the criteria. MPJ and I worked on it for the last few days, merging the separate list and the main article to nominate it for FL. All issues will be addressed by MPJ and I.--WillC 03:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "which effectively unified International Wrestling Council (IWC) World Heavyweight Championship" => "which effectively unified the International Wrestling Council (IWC) World Heavyweight Championship"
    • "as well as the four number one contenders to each respective championship" - there were not four number one contenders to each championship, and the word "respective" is completely unnecessary. Change to "as well as the number one contender to each championship"
    • "which was called simply Mexican Heavyweight Championship" => "which was referred to simply as the Mexican Heavyweight Championship"
    • "Cibernético quit the company because Konnan took over AAA in Antonio Peña Memorial Show" => "Cibernético quit the company because Konnan took over AAA at the Antonio Peña Memorial Show"
    • The date format for the general refs is different to that used for the specific refs
    • In the lead you refer to Mesias winning the "finals" but in the bracket this match is shown as the "final". I'm not sure what the correct US usage is, but regardless they should be consistent

Hope this helps, ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll handle these shortly. They went by without my notice.--WillC 12:22, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: All concerns addressed.--WillC 18:47, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One other quick point.....when you say "it is sometimes referred to in the English press", I presume you mean the English-language press, rather than the press in England......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed--WillC 17:03, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I feel bad seeing this list at the bottom of the stack, about to get archived but with two supports. So here's a review- recusing myself as a delegate to be a reviewer instead.

  • "compete in direct competition." - repeated word
    • Fixed
  • "In 2011, the then-AAA Mega Champion and Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) founder Jeff Jarrett appeared with a redesigned version of the title on TNA programming, which was referred to simply as the Mexican Heavyweight Championship." - difficult to parse; you seem to mean that a title match was shown on TNA with a different name (MHC), but the sentence starts off talking about stuff you've never mentioned before and then gets confusing as to what "which was" is referring to, the title match or TNA.
    • Reworded
  • "The Championship belt was the Mega Championship belt with a silver hexagonal plate covering the AAA faceplate, this was done due to Spike TV not allowing TNA to refer to AAA by name." - run-on sentence
    • Reworded
  • That whole section is kind of overweighted- you describe the belt, talk about the channel it was on... but don't do that for the regular match series.
  • "Title tournament bracket" - this is just the initial 2007 tournament of champions, yes? It's not clear in this section if that's so. Even just renaming the section to "Initial title tournament bracket" would help
    • reworded
  • "Title History" - shouldn't this be three rows, with AAA Mega Championship split between the first and third?
    • What?
  • The empty "Notes" fields in the big table under "Reigns" are a bit jarring- why are they empty?
    • Nothing special happened during the reigns. Just won and defended the title. No controversial finish or storyline.
  • The lead says that the current champion is Alberto, but the table says that he's no longer the champion now that he's signed with WWE- lead should be updated.
    • fixed
  • Dates in the references are formatted inconsistantly; standardize on either "yyyy-mm-dd" or "Month dd, yyyy"
    • Fixed
  • Is the ref publisher SuperLuchas, SuperLuchas Magazine, or Súper Luchas, because you use all three in the refs
    • I think they are different publishes. I don't deal with Mexican titles much. That is an issue for MPJ to settle since I'm expanding this due to its connection to TNA.
  • Ref 15- you don't need to specify the staff as the author; if no specific person is listed just leave it blank
    • Fixed.

I think this is all quite fixable. If this review was helpful, consider optionally reviewing my FLC nomination up above. --PresN 15:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: I'll get this as soon as I can. I'm going on a business trip for the weekend so it will be a few days before I know I'll have free time.--WillC 10:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: All concerns settled. Thanks for the review.--WillC 23:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Remaining: I fixed a couple minor things, but the SuperLuchas bit is still outstanding. Also, now I'm really confused as to what's going on with the "Mexican Heavyweight Championship" thing- I thought, especially with it called out in the "Title History" section, that the name of the AAA Mega Championship was actually changed to "Mexican Heavyweight Championship" from July 14, 2011 – March 18, 2012. But that's not true at all, is it? Nothing changed about the AAA MC; it's just that the guy who was the champion appeared on a series that didn't have licensing rights to use the name, so that (completely separate) series called it the MHC. If that's all true, you're giving that bit of trivia way too much weight in the article's lead, and it certainly shouldn't be called out as an official name change in that table in "Title History". --PresN 02:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SuperLucas is fixed. The title change thing is rather simple but hard to explain to a non-viewer. Promotions change the name of titles all of the time. When the WWE got the WCW Championship they changed the name several times. TNA changed the name of the IWGP Tag Team Championship. The point is that SpikeTV didn't want to advertise AAA on their programming so TNA was forced to call it another name. Jarrett holding the title and advertising it on national TV under a different name is a pretty big deal. Do believe he defended it in TNA as well.--WillC 05:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this. Don't know a whole lot about professional wrestling, but after reading through the article, I think I've got a good grasp on the AAA Mega Championship at least. Here are just a few comments:

Lead

  • The championship is generally contested in professional wrestling matches, in which participants execute scripted finishes rather than in direct competition. While this is a fairly known fact by now, there still needs to be a reference for scripted finishes.
    • Done
  • When mentioning the four championships that were unified, there should be a ref.
    • Ref at end of paragraph coves that.
  • While Jarrett appeared in TNA with the title it was referred to as the Mexican Heavyweight Championship. I think a comma is missing after title.
    • Done
  • Overall, there have been 12 reigns shared among 8 wrestlers, with one vacancy]]. If the ]] at the end was for vacancy, then it should be removed as vacant is already linked in that paragraph.
    • Forgot that when I added vacant earlier.

Inaugural Championship Tournament bracket

  • Just out of curiosity, what makes the inaugural championship worthy of having a bracket, while none of the others have one? Hopefully I'm not missing anything here, but it seems kind of odd to have it.
    • Not all championships have tournaments to crown the first champion. When they do a bracket is usually added if notable. This was a bunch of champions fighting to become the main champion. Pretty notable.

Title history

  • There should be a ref for AAA Mega Championship under names
    • done
  • In the Reigns section, there's some overlinking of some articles, like Zapopan, Jalisco, tape delay, as well as some of the wrestlers themselves.
    • As far as I'm aware these tables are not subject to overlinking. I've never had an overlinking issue in the past.
  • I know it's obvious, but to be consistent with naming conventions, it should be Mexico City, Mexico, not just Mexico City
    • Done

References

  • Refs 16, 18, 19, and 23 need to say (in Spanish)
    • done

Other stuff

  • No disambiguation links, that's nice.
  • Both images have alt text, once again, good job.
    • Good

That's all I could see. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't know a whole lot about wrestling in general (much more of a baseball guy myself), but overall, I think a casual reader will understand this article just fine. Clean up some of the comments (or provide a explanation as to why some comments weren't addressed), and you've got yourself a support. BTW, would you mind looking at my FLC? Famous Hobo (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All concerns addressed. Thank you for the review. Once I get a chance I will review your list. @Famous Hobo:--WillC 20:55, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alright, that's everything. Thanks for giving explanations. Famous Hobo (talk) 05:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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