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Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

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Nominator(s): Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you heard of the literary daughter of the foremost Nigerian writer Chinua Achebe. Do you know about the Nigerian Civil War? Or the historical background a a woman who studied bilingually and with writing explore the themes of many origin. Here is an article of a writer, speaker, fashion influencer, and critic. Adichie is a Nigerian who has written many award winning book. I don't need to call them because you already may have known them. This is the second nomination after I had a peer review mentored by SusunW and had great comments from Draken Bowser, Gog, and Reading Beans. I will appreciate Proscribe also and further accept your wonderful review in the FAR. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on sourcing from SusunW

I have never before mentored someone through the FA process, but when the article was nominated the first time, I recommended that it be withdrawn and sent to peer review. SafariScribe and I worked on it for a month, restructuring and expanding the article to include more aspects of her life, including her public speaking and fashion perspectives. During the peer review I looked at every single source and formatted the references for consistency and compliance with MOS guidelines. My goal was two-fold, to confirm that all the material was verified and that it was free of copyvios. My review of each website and literary magazine included evaluation of whether it had an editorial policy and/or editorial board. Because the subject is African, and because several of the critiques mentioned that African sources are often not consulted, I also wanted to ensure that we used a balanced approach covering the global nature of the subject. As she is also living and an iconic figure it should be noted that no formal complete biography of her has been written, but brief biographies that focus mainly on her writing have been included in works such as Contemporary Literary Criticism and the OUP's Dictionary of African Biography. These were supplemented with other sources for comprehensiveness.

The themes, style and critical reception sections rely most heavily on academic sourcing, and particular attention was given to African scholars. It should be noted that Ememyonu's A Companion to Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and Grace Musila's review of that work, confirm that no comprehensive academic attention has been given to Adichie's public speaking. Where possible, we have tried to use academic works to evaluate these, but many of them had to rely on the principal of "best sources available". The same holds true for analysis of her views and controversy, as well as fashion. As her works are discussed in depth in stand-alone articles, we have given only brief discussion of their overall content in the biography relying instead on how her style and themes are carried out in her works. If the coordinators feel that my analysis of the sourcing is "involved", I completely understand and leave it up to their determination as to whether my analysis of them equates to passing the source review and "spot checks". In my opinion, it passes both. Should discussion be warranted, please ping me. SusunW (talk) 15:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a source, spot check and plagiarism pass to me. @FAC coordinators:  ? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Would suggest using a mapframe instead of File:Nigeria-karte-politisch-enugu.png, but if it is kept it needs a source for the data presented
The maker released rights under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. It is a mural on the Municipal Sport Center in Concepción barrio of Madrid. The neighborhood voted on the subject matter, who should be included, and defeated a move to replace the mural; definitely a public display. It was commissioned from the art collective Unlogic Crew by the Department of Culture and Sports, and painted by Unlogic's members and people from the neighborhood.[1] Spain's freedom of panorama law allows "Works permanently located in parks or on streets, squares or other public thoroughfares". My interpretation is that it's okay to use because it is on a wall at a public sports park, has been there since painted in 2018, and if you look at the lede image on the Concepción Feminist Mural article, it's displayed on a public thoroughfare. SusunW (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SafariScribe, looking at this again, I think I understand what Nikkimaria is asking. The photograph was released, it meets panorama requirements, but do the painters have rights? According to p. 9 section 26 and 28.1 they do, for "for seventy years after the protected work is lawfully made available to the public". There are two ways to allow it's use, obtain permission from Unlogic and unknown community members, so that is completely impracticable. Or reload the image as "fair use" with the rationale that no freely licensed version is available because some of the collective authors are unknown. Is that what you meant, Nikkimaria? SusunW (talk) 15:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will wait till Nikki maria replies. I am still looking at whether it was using only the map frame which I already had done. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, yes. SafariScribe, I'm not sure what your comment is referring to - the article isn't using mapframe but rather a fixed map. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ Nikkimaria, I'm sorry for the confusion. Ok! Gotcha. I have removed the image for now. Do see others. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was pinged. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Spain#Freedom_of_panorama is a mess. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MarcoAurelio/FoP-ES goes into greater detail (and confirms the situation is a mess!). From it, it looks like neither the Osborne (registered trademark) nor the Raqueros (3D replica) issues apply, and the photo does not remove the artwork from the panorama. So if there is any freedom of panorama in Spain for our purposes, this image should be fine. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright/Archive/2023/08#NO-FOP_in_Spain? is the relevant discussion - it left with the same conclusion, that

the situation is a mess, but did not delete the 12300 FoP Spain images. If any of them are good, this one should be. If they are all deleted, this one presumably will be at the same time. So I'd keep it until then. --GRuban (talk) 21:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airship

As always, these are suggestions, not demands; feel free to refuse with adequate justification.

Lead and infobox
  • This is a long article—9200 words according to the prosesize tool. Per MOS:LEADLENGTH, I would recommend a four-paragraph lead.
      • Working on that
    • For exmple, I note that the "Themes and style" subsection, which by itself is longer than the "Views and controversy" and "Legacy" sections combined, are summarised in just two lead sentences.
      • Working too
  • MOS:FIRST: "Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie is a Nigerian writer, novelist, poet, essayist, and playwright of postcolonial feminist literature and public speaker. Are the four subdivisions of "writer" necessary? See MOS:FIRSTBIO: "try to not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject". I'm not even entirely sure that you can be an playwright of postcolonial feminist literature.
      • Rewritten.
    • Also, why are we saying "a writer ... of ... literature"? Seems tautological.
      • Rewritten.
  • It's odd that the only university mentioned in the lead is the one she didn't complete her studies at, unless the lead is attempting to refer to the secondary school, in which case it's misleading. In any case, the location is unnecessary.
      • I have removed the location, and linked all the universities she attended.
  • Infobox:
    • Is "fashionista" an occupation?
      • Fixed.
    • I don't think we need either em dashes or bullet points in the notable works/awards lists, and them being different just looks odd.
      • Fixed.
    • I'm not convinced of the worth of the "period" parameter.
      • Removed entirely.
    • Why does her spouse need a citation?
      • Fixed: I removed it since it's already cited in the body.

Will continue. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks forward to that. Thanks.


Life, education, and family
  • "Ngozi Adichie, whose English name was Amanda" what does this mean? My understanding of "English names" (not the link provided) is that they are common names taken by people with birth names unfriendly to English pronunciation. But looking at the infobox, it looks like "Amanda" was her birth name.
      • Adichie is an Igbo and according to the source, Igbo people name their child in Igbo after birth, and the English name after baptism. Adichie is referred to as "Ngozi" but she would later incorporate "chi-mamanda", which was derived from her English name Amanda. It is important we note the English name for some readers especially in Nigeria who didn't know Amanda is an English name.
  • Also, there are definitely too many commas in the first sentence.
  • "which she revealed in an interview with the Nigerian television personality Ebuka Obi-Uchendu" is this relevant?
      • It is important since it was the first place she said about her getting her known name, "Chimamanda". What of being a note?
  • The second paragraph describes her father moving to California twice. It would be better organised purely chronologically.
      • Done. Rephrased!
  • I find it odd that we use half a paragraph to describe how James fulfilled the requisite funerary rites for his father, which seems rather tangential at best, but consign his and his wife's dates of death to a note.
      • Done.
  • "He returned to Nigeria and began working as a professor at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, in 1966...Shortly after the family returned to Nigeria, the Biafran War broke out and James started working for the Biafran government" as before, the chronology is confusing. It would be far more helpful to state precisely when the Biafran War broke out, and when James started working for the Biafran government.
      • Done.
    • Apparently the anti-Igbo pogrom took place before the outbreak of the Biafran War, so I don't know why it's described as if it took place afterwards.
      • Removed.
  • "at the Biafran Manpower Directorate" seeing as I don't know what this is and can't figure out from its name alone, is it needed in the article?
      • Yes it's important since there exist other Biafran directorates where anyone can work.
  • "After Biafra ceased to exist in 1970, James returned to the University of Nigeria in Nsukka while Grace worked for the government at Enugu until 1973 when she became an administration officer at the university, later becoming the university's first female registrar. The family stayed at the campus of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka..." This is simultaneously repetitive (4x university, 2x Nsukka) and unclear (it is not immediately apparent whether Grace became an administration officer in a university in Enugu or Nsukka.
      • Rephrased.
  • " the family included Ijeoma Rosemary, Uchenna "Uche", Chukwunweike "Chuks", Okechukwu "Okey", Ngozi, and Kenechukwu "Kene"" ... presumably these are brothers/sisters? a list of names with no context is unhelpful.
      • Since this is a biography, can it be good having a "note".
Safari Scribe, I think all that is being asked is that you say instead of "the family included" that "her siblings included". Their names IMO are important, as they are mentioned elsewhere in the article. SusunW (talk) 14:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! My bad. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As a child, Adichie read only English-language stories, especially by Enid Blyton." this is the only mention of Blyton in the article, which makes the singling out of her as an "inspiration" in the lead somewhat dubious.
      • working.
  • "The war occurred before she was born," we know this
  • "She completed her secondary education at the University of Nigeria Campus Secondary School, Nsukka with top distinction in the West African Examinations Council (WAEC), and academic prizes. This sentence is hard to parse. Why the repetition of "Nsukka" again? Unless "with top distinction in the West African Examinations Council" is a phrase, it's grammatically incorrect.
      • Done.
  • " in the university" I think we can assume that a student-run magazine is in the university.
      • Most definitely.
  • The "Education abroad and early literary efforts" subsection paragraph is fairly long; continue splitting.
      • Working.
  • Previously the war was referred to as the Biafran War; now it is the Nigerian Civil War? It should be consistent.
      • Done.
  • "the theme of war following the Nigerian Civil War" the theme of war following a war? are you sure that's what's meant?
      • Corrected, and rephrased.
  • I'm not sure why the "education abroad and early literary efforts" subsection includes, variously, her marriage, children, place of residence, citizenship status, and selected prizes received. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]