Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1987–88 Gillingham F.C. season/archive1
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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 31 October 2021 [1].
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:15, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
After two successful nominations and one that's nearly over the line, here's my fourth nomination of a season from the history of English football (soccer) club Gillingham, and this one was certainly a rollercoaster ride. The team started off the season like a house on fire, scoring 8 and 10 on consecutive Saturdays, the latter the highest score in the Football League for nearly 25 years. I was at both games and it was madness (in a good way, of course!). I distinctly remember that Match magazine published an article with the brilliant headline "Gillingham are killing 'em!". After that, though, things went downhill quite rapidly, and popular manager Keith Peacock was sacked just after Christmas, a decision which fans of my generation are still mad about more than 30 years later. As ever, I look forward to getting feedback, which will be acted on as soon as humanly possible! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:15, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Image review—pass no issues found (t · c) buidhe 20:13, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Support from TRM
- " play-offs for promotion" link both.
- "from promotion to the Second" overlinked.
- "this was the reverse of the second-choice shirts" seems wrong way round, wouldn't the away strip be the reverse of the home strip?
- "the highest number of goals " the most goals
- "scored four of the goals, the first time a Gillingham player had scored as many goals" maybe just "scored four, ..."? Otherwise a bit repetitive.
- "left the team second" left Gillingham (and then rephrase the subsequent clause to avoid repeat).
- "in 7th position" seventh.
- "14th season with ... of the season" repetitive.
- "8th" eighth.
- "over Chesterfield.[51]" overlinked.
- " from Millwall, made" overlinked.
- "placed Walsall, and " overlinked.
- "the Second Division. Stoke won the" maybe run on instead of saying "Stoke won..." like "the Second Division, losing the ... leg and the .. leg..."
- Luff made a league appearance so is "notable".
- Linked, although at that point I discovered that I had actually created his article as a redirect to this one back in March. I highly doubt he will ever have an article based on his ten minutes of pro football more than 30 years ago, but if someone wants to convert the redir to an article they can.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Ref 19, what is page ifc? Inside front cover?
- Yeah - didn't know how else to write that -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: - thanks for your review, all addressed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, there wasn't much to fuss about here, so with the above changes, happy to support. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: - do you think I should change the "ifc" in that ref to be in caps? I had thought that even though the IFC isn't numbered, I could potentially "count back" from the first page which is actually numbered, but that gets me to 0 :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- No, I guessed what it meant, I'm not sure you can have "p. inside front cover", bit odd too! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: - do you think I should change the "ifc" in that ref to be in caps? I had thought that even though the IFC isn't numbered, I could potentially "count back" from the first page which is actually numbered, but that gets me to 0 :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, there wasn't much to fuss about here, so with the above changes, happy to support. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Support from Amakuru
- Background and preseason
- "out of action" - according to the dictionary this is an idiom, so should probably be avoided per MOS:IDIOM
- "forward Tony Cascarino" - try to reword to avoid a WP:SEAOFBLUE if that's possible
- "midfielder George Shipley and defender Gary West" - same thing
- "£40,000 to sign Shipley and £50,000 to sign" - repetition of "to sign"
- "supporters were looking forward to Gillingham playing at" - seems a bit journalese.
- "would not play at Wembley for the first time until 1999" - suggest "did not make their first appearance at Wembley until 1999". Also maybe link the 1999 event which saw them play there.
- August–December
- "a second consecutive league match in which the team failed to score a goal" - I feel like I'd like to know what the result was in this game
- "second in the table ... the team dropped to 12th" - as comparable figures, these should probably be either second/twelfth or 2nd/12th, per MOS:NUM
- "and would not play again" - "and did not play again"
- "Former assistant manager Taylor was appointed" - presumably he was still the assistant manager at the time of his appointment? If so, I think it would be better to omit the "former" as this makes it sound like there was a hiatus during which he was not in the post.
- January–May
- "1 January" - as a new year, I might consider adding "1988" to this date
- "club record fee" - perhaps a hyphen between club and record?
- "league leaders Notts County" - a hyphen here too?
- Aftermath
- "Taylor remained manager of Gillingham for the 1988–89 season" - suggest maybe "the start of the 1988–89 season", to be clear that the didn't remain in the post for the whole season.
- "I'm proud of my time with the club, though". - reverse the " and the . at the end, since it's a multi-sentence quote and should finish with a full stop.
That's about it. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 22:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- Actually wait, there's Lead too. Coming up:
- Lead
- You link here to "voted back into the league" but I didn't see a similar link in the body
- "but been defeated" - "but had been defeated"
OK, that really is it now! — Amakuru (talk) 22:52, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: - all done bar one. I've personally never seen "league leaders" (as a noun) written with a hyphen. "League-leading" (as an adjective) yes, but not "league leaders"......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Alright, fair enough. I was thinking maybe as an adjective it would be hyphenated, but no biggy. Nice work overall, and happy to support. As an aside, if you have any spare time to do a review yourself, WP:Featured article candidates/2014 FIFA World Cup Final/archive1 is awaiting a bit more feedback. Do let me know if you have any other work you'd like me to look at as well. Cheers! — Amakuru (talk) 11:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Support from Cas Liber
Looks fine on comprehensiveness and prose. No clangers jumped out at me. A nice read. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:21, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Source review
Spotchecks not done. Version reviewed
- Don't mix {{citation}} with {{cite}}-family templates
- FN14 should use pp. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:41, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: - resolved :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:16, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Query for the coordinators
- @FAC coordinators: - can I confirm I am now OK to open another nom? Thanks! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- @FAC coordinators: - courtesy repinging for Chris's request here, as I think due to the typo and then correction, the ping may not have worked - if you don't sign it at the time you make the ping it sometimes fails. — Amakuru (talk) 10:19, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Tks Amakuru -- go ahead, Chris. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- @FAC coordinators: - courtesy repinging for Chris's request here, as I think due to the typo and then correction, the ping may not have worked - if you don't sign it at the time you make the ping it sometimes fails. — Amakuru (talk) 10:19, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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