Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 March 24

Category:American actors of Italian descent – Endorse. Not much discussion here, but what there is falls squarely on endorsing. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking to recreate the category per WP:CLT, the article List of Italian-American actors now has some more context based on information from reliable, secondary sources on why this categorization is valid. These were not considered in the 2013 CFD. Closing admin doesn't seem to be active anymore. I believe that based on what academic literature says, Italian American identity within American cinema is unique among European American ethnicities in its effect on greater American popular culture so it's not comparable to any of the other categories deleted in that mass nomination.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit different from most DRVs, but if this were at CfD, I would still vote to delete on overcategorisation grounds. SportingFlyer T·C 16:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you explain? If you see the information in the article List of Italian-American actors, it explains why Italian-American identity among actors is extremely palpable and influences filmmaking and casting to a great extent.--Prisencolin (talk) 06:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - We've typically kept X of Y descent separate from occupational categories, otherwise things become very unwieldy very quickly. SportingFlyer T·C 10:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - That's not really true there are plenty of categories of the sort which exist, of course there are plenty more which at deleted as well. Category:American actors of Chinese descent has been CFD'd at at least 4 times and has survived every time. I'm also pretty sure that overall project guidelines, specifically WP:COMPREHENSIVE, prohibits the limiting of certain kinds of content just because "it could become unwieldy" to have a proliferation of similar content in the future.--Prisencolin (talk) 06:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      - That category has technically been kept, true, but it's actually been "no consensus"'d four times. So there's not a clear guideline here that these sorts of categories are acceptable. SportingFlyer T·C 13:05, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse per WP:OCAT. Stifle (talk) 10:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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