Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 April 11

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11 April 2014

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Ayaan Chawla (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

I think I have added one more link of one of India's biggest Newspaper Publishers who have given tag of 'India's Youngest CEO With A Heart Of Gold" and I think it is a good reference and in that interview every detail is mentioned, what I think. What you all say? So if Administrators are satisfied with article kindly restore. PradeepChowdhury (talk) 19:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article reads a bit like an advertisement at the moment. I suspect the article would be re-sent to articles for deletion likely with a similar outcome. It's not citation that's the main challenge with the article, it's notability. Simply founding some companies does not establish notability by itself. -- Tawker (talk) 00:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Deleted - He's 16, CEO of four companies, and still finds time to study 11th in school. The Wikipedia article was built using information from Ayaan Chawla himself and looks like a puffed up resume for a 16 year old, where Wikipedia is being used to validate Ayaan Chawla's purported qualifications. The thehansindia.com/CEO With A Heart Of Gold interview states "All my employees in my companies are senior to me." How many employees would that be? One is "My mother ... is chairman of my company." Prior history of the article - SPI Ron Gates, DRV 2013 August 21, DRV 2013 October 15. -- Jreferee (talk) 06:18, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep deletion As promotional and with insufficient substance to produce an acceptable article. The references are essentially PR. We are gradually getting away from the most naive interpretation of the GNG, that it doesn't matter where the article comes from or what it says. Notability has to be for something, and if there are references expressing coverage for nothing much, it doesnt belong in an encyclopedia. Having worked with this area for years, I am getting increasingly skeptical of the non-promotional or substantial nature of much Indian newspaper coverage, even in the best papers. DGG ( talk ) 08:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - For Jreferee, I do understand your concern on Wikipedia because I know many people who are doing marketing & PR Activity and there I place deletion tags also. But first of all he is not studding 11th in school he is studding from NIOS - National Institute Of Open Schooling, I think if you understand it is not a regular school. And about employees his company employees are 25+ main are Kunjam D. Chawla - Chairperson (Only Handel Legal As Ayaan Is Not 18+ to for legal authorities in India), Ayaan Chawla - Founder & CEO, Jyolsha Chawla - VP Business Development, Vinay Oberoi - Global Marketing Head, Tanya Bhasin - VP of Product Development. Founded Details on http://www.asianfoxdevelopments.com/meet-the-team.html. For example in this age his company is IT & ONline Media Partner of Bollywood movie of one of the biggest Director "Ikram Akhtar"'s Movie and you can guess nobody makes any partner without knowing the company. And maybe my article was to long like resume :), but you can edit it full rather deleting it. Snd yes I have checked about that sock puppet case and that was obvious but here there is no concern to that. So kindly rethink, because my thinking can be differ from yours but as an editor it is not. PradeepChowdhury (talk) 08:57, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - For DGG, I do understand your concern I am not a PR or PR Activity person, I am an editor and I don't want to be called PR. So Thanks PradeepChowdhury (talk) 08:59, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You have identified a true problem: the pervasiveness of PR writing in WP is becoming so great for some types of articles, that even good-faith editors when they write about a company or an entrepreneur tend to write in exactly the same manner. The only practical way we can deal with this is to remove such articles when the notability is borderline (and drastically rewrite from scratch any that are truly notable) regardless of who has written them or what their motive may have been. An even better solution would be for people who knew how to write good articles about all actually notable companies, but there are insufficient qualified and interested editors. DGG ( talk ) 00:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Deleted, notability doesn't work on the basis that a large number of flimsy and weak sources sum up to have the same weight as a couple of good ones. These "feel good" news stories might be good for padding out the paper on a slow news day, but they don't bring Chawla any closer to Wikipedia's notability standards. Lankiveil (speak to me) 06:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]
  • Leave deleted. Does not look close to having Independent reliable sources providing significant coverage. These definitely do not include Facebook or LinkedIn. Not only do they note demonstrate notability, they are not welcomed, see Wikipedia:External links.PradeepChowdhury, See WP:COI. I recommend that you do more editing on subjects unconnected to yourself, to learn and demonstrate that you understand Wikipedia, and that your should do this before you [[User:PradeepChowdhury|"spread vast knowledge on Wikipedia". When you have more productive editing history, and reliably sourced content, I recommend that you write a userspace subpage draft before asking again. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:36, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - SmokeyJoe, Thanks Actually I have added Facebook links for Photo References & LinkedIn for Professional Life, I know these links are not recommended reliably sourced but I have added. PradeepChowdhury (talk) 13:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - OK Everyone, as per all your suggestion & conversation I'll recreate this article with reliable references like News Channels, News Papers, Big News Portals & Etc. in my Sandbox and when it be finally completed I'll tag this article again for review. But don't block the article so I can recreate it. PradeepChowdhury (talk) 13:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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