Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Unincorporated cities in Norway
Category:Unincorporated cities in Norway
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: relisted on 31st. Kbdank71 13:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions.
- Nominator's rationale: The term "unincorporated" does not have any meaning in a Norwegian context. All cities in Norway are localized within a municipality and lack local governance.
- For instance, Bergen has a so-called city council which is elected by the whole municipality, but the outlying borough of Arna is not a part of the city, just of the municipality.
- Seemingly, the category creator has just added cities with a different name than their corresponding municipality. The history of Horten shows why this is meaningless: The municipality of Horten was merged with the municipality of Borre in 1988. The name of the new municipality was Borre. Supposedly, then, Horten was an "unincorporated city" in Borre municipality. Some years later, the name was changed from Borre to Horten. Supposedly, from this point the city of Horten was no longer "unincorporated", since its corresponding municipality bore the same name. But - no, that makes no sense and is OR. Punkmorten (talk) 19:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Technically, Arna is in fact part of the city. I believe the reason why you think it is not is due to SSB's urban areas, but those do not in any way decide the size of and the area covered by the cities - SSB does not decide what is part of cities and what is not (although it might have been reasonable if they could do that, but that's not the current situation). The city limits of Bergen are in fact coterminous with the municipality limits, much like those of Oslo being coterminous with that city's limits - Bærum is not part of Oslo even though it is obviously a very integrated surburb and considered part of the Oslo urban area by SSB. On a related note, what are your thoughts on the Sandvika case? How large is its population and where is its city limits (it is entirely included in the Oslo urban area). --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 20:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think my thoughts about Sandvika are relevant - sources, on the other hand, are. Punkmorten (talk) 10:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- What do the sources say? --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 10:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. Punkmorten (talk) 11:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- What do the sources say? --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 10:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think my thoughts about Sandvika are relevant - sources, on the other hand, are. Punkmorten (talk) 10:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Technically, Arna is in fact part of the city. I believe the reason why you think it is not is due to SSB's urban areas, but those do not in any way decide the size of and the area covered by the cities - SSB does not decide what is part of cities and what is not (although it might have been reasonable if they could do that, but that's not the current situation). The city limits of Bergen are in fact coterminous with the municipality limits, much like those of Oslo being coterminous with that city's limits - Bærum is not part of Oslo even though it is obviously a very integrated surburb and considered part of the Oslo urban area by SSB. On a related note, what are your thoughts on the Sandvika case? How large is its population and where is its city limits (it is entirely included in the Oslo urban area). --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 20:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I have repopulated this category with the following cities:
I find it quite inappropriate that the category was depopulated before this nomination. __meco (talk) 09:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.