Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 25

July 25

Category:Killzone

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Killzone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary separation of a video game franchise and its games. This category previously only contained Joris de Man besides its main subject article, but I removed it because while he is a composer of the Killzone video games, he does not fit in, in some ways because he also composed the Horizon soundtrack. I'm pretty sure that is just an excuse for there to be more than 1 article in this category. After this, rename the subcategory to just simply "Killzone." QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, it suffices to interlink Joris de Man and Killzone in the body text of these articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to the fact I instead soft-redirected the Killzone games category to Killzone. at this point I can just call for Speedy close. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Category:Killzone games could probably be merged here instead of deleting it. The split is unnecessary given the lack of anything else in the category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No the games should stay in the games tree, e.g. in Category:First-person shooters by series. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, I'm talking about carrying over all its parent categories, just merging the games category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok with that provision it could be an alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to the fact instead of continuing this discussion I decided to label "Killzone games" with a redirect to "Killzone." At this point, you may just to reply with Speedy Keep. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:28, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Science fiction shooter video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Science fiction shooter video games to Category:Science fiction video games

Nominator's rationale: This category that feels out of place - Not a defining trait for the shooter game genre, especially because science fiction is really just a generic theme for the genre as a whole. Does not even categorize every single video game that is both a science fiction and shooter game. I would have instead split with Sci-fi and Shooter games but that wouldn't work due to multiple subgenres of shooter game, and only a few articles do not have a shooter games category, except for like Halo (franchise) and Gears of War. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, so the nomination is actually :* Propose merging Category:Science fiction shooter video games to Category:Science fiction video games and manually merging to Category:Shooter games. I do not have an opinion about it, just helping to clarify. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dual merge per nom, not really its own established genre and therefore likely an example of overcategorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This category's name used to be "Futuristic shooting games" and for which the rename seems to now give off a different meaning. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Squares and ball games

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Squares and ball games

Category:Ditherpunk video games

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 14:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Ditherpunk video games (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: "Ditherpunk" is still a neogolism, with only a few sources supporting this term (including the developer self describing one of the games in this list), we should be categorizing by such terms Masem (t) 21:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No need for upmerging with Category:Monochrome video games. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I started the category to distinguish games with a dithering style from other monochromatic graphics. Besides the growing use in sources, there's also a subreddit dedicated to the style.

However, any other rename for the category could be alright too. --NoonIcarus (talk) 02:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge for now until ditherpunk receives an article or any amount of coverage on Wikipedia. MClay1 (talk) 02:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Musical theorists of the medieval Islamic world

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 14:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Musical theorists of the medieval Islamic world to Category:Music theorists of the medieval Islamic world

Nominator's rationale: Should be "Music theorists"; "Musical theorists" is not a normal term. Aza24 (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per Category:Music theorists. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the theorists are musical? (Speedy move per C2C.) MClay1 (talk) 09:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Module documentation pages

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Module documentation pages

Category:Olympic Games in fiction

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Olympic Games in fiction

Category:Egyptian art movements

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Egyptian art movements (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: 1-article category Gjs238 (talk) 13:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support in principle but merge to Category:Arts in Egypt. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport

Category:Sportspeople from Japan by prefecture

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Sportspeople from Japan by prefecture

Category:Essays about biology

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Essays about biology to Category:Scientific essays

Nominator's rationale: Smaller underpopulated category. I've already added the lone page to Biology books‎ Mason (talk) 12:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or delete per nom, the latter because the article isn't about "an" essay and it properly sits in Category:English essay collections. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Early infrastructure

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 3rd century BC‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 3rd century BC
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 2nd century BC‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 2nd century BC
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1st century BC‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 1st century BC
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1st century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 1st century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 2nd century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 2nd century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 3rd century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 3rd century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 4th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 4th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 5th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 5th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 6th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 6th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 7th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 8th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 9th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 9th century
Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in the 10th century‎ to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 10th century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 2nd century BC‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 2nd century BC
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1st century BC‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 1st century BC
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1st century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 1st century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 2nd century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 2nd century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 3rd century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 3rd century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 4th century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 4th century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 6th century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 6th century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 7th century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 10th century‎ (1 C) to Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 10th century

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layers in these early centuries. With few exceptions it only contains a bridges subcategory under Transport infrastructure and a fortifications subcategory directly under Infrastructure. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Christian pacifist Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Christian pacifist Wikipedians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Uncategorised film articles

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Uncategorised film articles

Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums to Category:Jazzland Records albums

Nominator's rationale: Not sure why two categories were created, but now releases in two categories belong to the same label. The only other label with a similar name also already has its own category: Category:Jazzland Recordings albums. Solidest (talk) 22:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, the article name is Riverside Records. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jazzland seems to be a sublabel of it. Riverside Records discography says it's subsidiary, Discogs says it's companion label. Solidest (talk) 12:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 16:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As the articles from both categories have the same label name in the infobox, which links to the same article (even while it is a different article name), merging seems the best solution indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bengali cinema

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The result of the discussion was: keep. An RM should be the first step here. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 15:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Cinema of West Bengal to Category:Bengali cinema, India

Nominator's rationale: The category should be changed since the main article's name was changed from Cinema of West Bengal to Bengali cinema, India. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, it is not a straightforward case of WP:C2D because nominator moved the article without RM. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Bengali cinema in India" would be better, but I suggest reverting the undiscussed page move instead for now, as this is part of Category:Culture of West Bengal, even though "[language] cinema" is the dominant naming format in Category:Indian film industries. @Jayanthkumar123: please see WP:RM#CM for how to start a discussion on a contested page move. – Fayenatic London 12:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 16:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Oppose This is one of three strands of [mainstream] Indian cinema whose languages are shared across countries/states, the others being Category:Cinema of Punjab (India/Pakistan), Bengali cinema (India/Bangladesh) and Telugu cinema (Andhra Pradesh/Telangana; Category:Cinema of Andhra Pradesh/Category:Cinema of Telangana). This was an undiscussed by the editor which is now sought to be imposed for the cat (I have undone the unilateral article move). Also state wise categories for Indian state cinema are extant as can be seen at Category:Cinema of India by state or union territory. Gotitbro (talk) 21:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:12th-century Indian sculptors

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkl talk 15:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:12th-century Indian sculptors to Category:12th-century Indian artists and Category:12th-century sculptors and Category:Indian sculptors

Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. Isolated century category that doesn't really help with navigation. Mason (talk) 01:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. But to Category:12th-century Indian artists and Category:12th-century sculptors only because the articles are already in Category:Indian male sculptors. It is not clear to me why Indian sculptors are divided by gender but that is another discussion. Can we add the 7th and 8th century categories to the nomination? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Video game franchises by narrative genre

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Video game series by narrative genre. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 15:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Video game franchises by narrative genre to Category:Video game franchises by theme

Nominator's rationale: QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, this is clearly a subcategory of Category:Video games by narrative genre, why would you suggest an unrelated name? AHI-3000 (talk) 04:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both current names are not exactly stating what the categories contain. They are about video games by series, not about franchises. It should rather become something like "Video games by (narrative) genre and series". Alternatively, the narrative category may also be upmerged, it does not make too much sense to ghettoize the three genres that are in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the supercategory name should have "series" instead of "franchises" in it to reflect the naming pattern of the subcategories. AHI-3000 (talk) 04:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, however I do not like these new "video game franchises by narrative genre". They really just feel like overcategorization despite dividing categories in a proper way (and if so, we'll merge it back with Video games by theme). The creator will probably not agree with me, but I hope some others will, and we'll discuss all these categories later. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 17:55, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Video game series by narrative genre, per AHI-3000. I think many of the surrounding categories, such as Category:Video game franchises by genre, should be renamed similarly. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target?
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Agree with Category:Video game series by narrative genre. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pages using LPFM station data without facility ID

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Pages using LPFM station data without facility ID

Category:Hotels in Pattaya

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 2#Category:Hotels in Pattaya