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Category:Failed crowdfunding projects
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- The result of the discussion was: combine to Category:Crowdfunding projects (except for Category:Failed crowdfunding projects). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Crowdfunded projects to Category:Crowdfunding projects (updated Feb 26)
- Propose merging Category:Failed crowdfunding projects to Category:Crowdfunding projects
- Propose merging Category:Unsuccessful Kickstarter campaigns to Category:Crowdfunding projects
- Propose merging Category:Failed crowdfunding projects to Category:Crowdfunding projects
- Propose renaming Category:Crowdfunded projects to Category:Crowdfunding projects (updated Feb 26)
- Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. "Failed" or "unsuccessful" is a subjective judgement that doesn't account for potential success later, acquiring actual publisher funding, choosing to cancel a Kickstarter, etc. Even when supposedly "failed", a Kickstarter can give a game free advertising. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose for the reason that a failed crowdfunding campaign is a project that did not end up getting crowdfunded, so it would not fit into the latter categories. Maybe "unsuccessful crowdfunding campaigns" would work better, putting more focus on the attempt to crowdfund than the larger project of doing things with the funds - if this even is worth categorizing an article by in the first place.--AlexandraIDV 00:16, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV: Perhaps you would agree if the parent category was moved to Category:Crowdfunding projects? That is how it is written in the title of List of highest-funded crowdfunding projects after all, and doesn't imply the project reached its target or not. The two parent categories of that one are also Category:Crowdfunding and Category:Projects. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- That makes sense to me.--AlexandraIDV 00:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV: Perhaps you would agree if the parent category was moved to Category:Crowdfunding projects? That is how it is written in the title of List of highest-funded crowdfunding projects after all, and doesn't imply the project reached its target or not. The two parent categories of that one are also Category:Crowdfunding and Category:Projects. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Category:Failed crowdfunding projects, it is not a defining characteristic of the two articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename/Merge as updated pending discussion. I've removed one of the two Category:Failed crowdfunding projects, as crowdfunding was never mentioned in the article. The other "failed" upward, as $793,000 raised is not usually considered a failure, and the platform may be completed later.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Soviet scholars of Roman history
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: merge, for scholars of Roman history the distinction between Soviet Russians and post-Soviet Russians is rather trivial. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge — verified that they all were born in Russia or Tatarstan, all seem to be Russian, some already in Russian scholars.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:02, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - Merge -- Thanks for checking them all. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Ceremonies in Iceland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:24, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Iceland to Category:Events in Iceland
- (added 19 February):
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Azerbaijan to Category:Events in Azerbaijan
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Gabon to Category:Events in Gabon
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in North Korea to Category:Events in North Korea
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Romania to Category:Events in Romania
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in the Soviet Union to Category:Events in the Soviet Union
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Turkey to Category:Events in Turkey
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Vatican City to Category:Events in Vatican City
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Venezuela to Category:Events in Venezuela
- Propose merging Category:Ceremonies in Vietnam to Category:Events in Vietnam
- Nominator's rationale: Merge content from 1-member subcat Category:Funerals in Iceland Estopedist1 (talk) 22:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - I added siblings with corresponding content. – Fayenatic London 07:59, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support them, too. Thanks.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support them, too. Thanks.
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Category:Historians of Roman Achaia
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting
mergingCategory:Historians of Roman Achaiato Category:Historians of ancient Rome
- Propose deleting
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. The two articles are actually about Greek historians that lived in Roman times (Polybius, 2nd century BC, and Plutarch, 1st-2nd centuries AD). So they are anyway a bit misplaced in the category tree of Category:Historians of ancient Rome, which is in Historians by field of study (although, of course, they did write about Roman-era Greece and the Roman world). The category were they belong is therefore Category:Greek-language historians from the Roman Empire, which I guess is thus named instead of Category:Roman-era Greek historians (after Category:Classical-era Greek historians, Category:Hellenistic-era historians and Category:Roman-era Greeks) because it includes historians that wrote in Greek but were not Greek themselves, such as Josephus. As both are already in this category, there is nothing to merge. Place Clichy (talk) 15:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Modified mine to delete, as there is nothing to merge. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Agree with Place Clichy and amended the nomination. As the two articles are already in Category:Greek-language historians from the Roman Empire, a merge is no longer needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Modified mine to delete, as there is nothing to merge. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
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Category:People from Danleng County
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:People from Danleng County to Category:People from Danling County
- Nominator's rationale: The following "城市及景区宣传口号中英文对照". Archived from the original on 15 February 2023., "22 New 4A Tourist Attractions in Sichuan". Archived from the original on 28 November 2022.
Old Emei Mountain Scenic Area, Danling County, Meishan City
, "你好,我是丹棱!"., and "丹棱县". show that the name used is Danling. This will match the article. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), This will match the article Danling County. Huliva 21:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:13, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Danleng County
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:26, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Danleng County to Category:Danling County
- Nominator's rationale: The following "城市及景区宣传口号中英文对照". Archived from the original on 15 February 2023., "22 New 4A Tourist Attractions in Sichuan". Archived from the original on 28 November 2022.
Old Emei Mountain Scenic Area, Danling County, Meishan City
, "你好,我是丹棱!"., and "丹棱县". show that the name used is Danling. This will match the article Danling County. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:09, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename and don't delete. Tons of potential for growth, see Chinese Wikipedia category. Mucube (talk • contribs) 23:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- We can re-create the category if more English-language articles appear, but it is not set in stone that this will happen. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only 3 articles in the Chinese Wikipedia category.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Sports competitions in Ignalina
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Ignalina to Category:Ignalina
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Jonava to Category:Sport in Jonava
- Propose deleting Category:Events in Jonava (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Nida to Category:Nida, Lithuania
- Propose deleting Category:Events in Nida (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Sport in Nida (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, currently only one article in each of the sports competitions categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:04, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per SMALLCAT. Renata•3 19:31, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Sports competitions in Budva
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:28, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Budva to Category:Sport in Budva
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Open to recreation if more articles get created. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, currently only two articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Education in Budva
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:29, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Education in Budva to Category:Budva
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One article. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, currently only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:September 2022 sports events in Andorra
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:September 2022 sports events in Andorra to Category:September 2022 sports events in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:September 2022 events in Andorra (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2022 events in Andorra by month (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. This is the lone monthly sports events category for Andorra. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Sports competitions in Qawra
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:St. Paul's Bay. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, but merge to Category:St. Paul's Bay to which Qawra belongs. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support with merge per Marco.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Thriller drama films and sub
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 27#Category:Thriller drama films and sub
Category:Sports competitions in South Korea by city
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- The result of the discussion was: keep & merge.
- Keep Category:Sports competitions in South Korea by city
- Merge Category:Sports competitions in Thailand by city (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in South Korea by city to Category:Sports competitions in South Korea and Category:Sports competitions in Asia by city
- Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Thailand by city to Category:Sports competitions in Thailand and Category:Sports competitions in Asia by city
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer with just two cities. Open to recreation when more cities have categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC) - Category:Sports competitions in South Korea by city Keep. Gray eyes (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Withdraw support for merging Category:Sports competitions in South Korea by city as it is meanwhile much better populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Sports venues in Yongin
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge&keep.
- Dual merge Category:Sports venues in Yongin to Category:Buildings and structures in Yongin and Category:Sports venues in Gyeonggi Province
- Keep Category:Sport in Yongin (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:59, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sports venues in Yongin to Category:Buildings and structures in Yongin
- Propose deleting Category:Sport in Yongin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One article. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Dual Upmerge for Now with no objection to recreating if it exceeds my expectations and gets up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Dual merge per above, also to Category:Sports venues in Gyeonggi Province. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Yongin Keep Gray eyes (talk) 15:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Dual Merge per Marcocapelle.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC) - Withdraw support for merging Category:Sport in Yongin as it is meanwhile much better populated. The first nomination should become a triple merge now, also to Category:Sport in Yongin. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:28, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Malay race
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:ETHNICRACECAT: Wikipedia does not categorize by race, which is an outdated pseudo-scientific concept. All content is already properly categorized, nothing to merge. Place Clichy (talk) 16:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete No objection to an article describing old concepts like Malay race, but we shouldn't categorize by it. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Glima competitions
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Glima. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Glima. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per above.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:20, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Child rulers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename & reparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Child rulers to Category:Child monarchs
- Propose renaming Category:Ancient child rulers to Category:Ancient child monarchs
- Propose renaming Category:Child rulers from Asia to Category:Child monarchs from Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Child rulers from sub-Saharan Africa to Category:Child monarchs from sub-Saharan Africa
- Propose renaming Category:Medieval child rulers to Category:Medieval child monarchs
- Propose renaming Category:Modern child rulers to Category:Modern child monarchs
- Propose renaming Category:Rulers deposed as children to Category:Monarchs deposed as children
- Propose renaming Category:Rulers who died as children to Category:Monarchs who died as children
- Nominator's rationale: rename and reparent to the Monarchs hierarchy. Monarchs is more specific than rulers and the concept of child rulers only makes sense in a monarchy. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Scratching my head, I can only think of the Dalai Lama as a case where a state would select a child that is not a monarch to rule it, obviously through regents. There are other culture which also select children as religious figures, but I'm not sure there is any other place where they are also invested temporal powers. Anyway, this case practically comes down to a non-hereditary monarchy, so I subscribe to the nomination. Place Clichy (talk) 18:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. It is highly improbable that any child would be appointed as a ruler, other than by inheriting the position. As a child, actual rule will be in the hands of a regent(s). This includes Dalai Lama, who is believed to be his predecessor reincarnated. "Child" needs to be judged according to whether they had a regent, as some kings declared themselves of age and began ruling at less than the normal full age. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename and re-parent.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC) - Rename and 're-parent per nom and per my own CfD on Category:Rulers. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Cats by sock
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-standard category in linguistics (other cats exist for langs and countries), created for nationalistic POVPUSH by blocked sock. Gotitbro (talk) 14:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Just realized could have CSD'd these cats (the new skin is definitely a handful), please see if they can be handled as such. Gotitbro (talk) 14:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The intersection between language family and country does not seem to be a good idea. All content is already in Category:Languages of Pakistan or a subcat thereof, so nothing to merge. Place Clichy (talk) 18:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Per WP:G5. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete WP:G5 — fixed nomination.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedia categories named after subway systems
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Poorly named and unmaintained Maintenance category. Petscan shows that a number of "underground" rapid transit systems are missing. Using Category:Rapid transit itself would be better and more complete than only "subway systems".
- William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, overlap with the tree of Category:Rapid transit - unless someone can explain what kind of maintenance is done here. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - and populate using eg the Petcan mentioned in the nom. 'Delete because incomplete' is a novel rationale at cfd. Oculi (talk) 13:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Overlapping categories that are not well populated is a fairly common rationale. Over the past 6+ years, mostly RevelationDirect and I have proposed deleting one or more of these. Oculi always opposes without explaining how s/he is doing maintenance. Perhaps the creator Solomonfromfinland can explain what maintenance is actually done. In the meantime, I'll purge those not specifically about subways.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:45, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- If it's a worthwhile category to populate, sure, I'm on board with populating it. So what administrative purpose does it serve? - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- It is a completely different category (a category of categories) from Category:Rapid transit (a standard topic category), with a completely different structure, as a swift glance at both will demonstrate. William Allen Simpson has a history of bringing these to cfd without attempting to understand them; eg 2021 March 3#Category:Wikipedia categories named after regions. user:BrownHairedGirl, whose sagacious contributions to cfd are sorely missed, supplies a well-reasoned defence at 2020 March 25#Category:Wikipedia categories named after Presidents of Czechoslovakia. There is a discussion at 2012 March 3#Category:Eponymous categories which decided they should be hidden and discusses administrative/project properties. Oculi (talk) 01:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- BHG provides an argument for closely monitoring eponymous biography categories but that doesn't apply here. How does this category aid the encyclopedia? - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- I've been around some time longer than Oculi, would appreciate that s/he stop personal insults. I understand category maintenance rather well. Still waiting for decription of the actual maintenance procedure for this case.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- It is a completely different category (a category of categories) from Category:Rapid transit (a standard topic category), with a completely different structure, as a swift glance at both will demonstrate. William Allen Simpson has a history of bringing these to cfd without attempting to understand them; eg 2021 March 3#Category:Wikipedia categories named after regions. user:BrownHairedGirl, whose sagacious contributions to cfd are sorely missed, supplies a well-reasoned defence at 2020 March 25#Category:Wikipedia categories named after Presidents of Czechoslovakia. There is a discussion at 2012 March 3#Category:Eponymous categories which decided they should be hidden and discusses administrative/project properties. Oculi (talk) 01:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- If it's a worthwhile category to populate, sure, I'm on board with populating it. So what administrative purpose does it serve? - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Overlapping categories that are not well populated is a fairly common rationale. Over the past 6+ years, mostly RevelationDirect and I have proposed deleting one or more of these. Oculi always opposes without explaining how s/he is doing maintenance. Perhaps the creator Solomonfromfinland can explain what maintenance is actually done. In the meantime, I'll purge those not specifically about subways.
- Delete clear case of WP:OVERLAPCAT while avoiding WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If a plausible case that this serves an administrative purpose is raised, I'm happy to reconsider. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete unless a valid reason to keep for maintenance is provided; however, I've yet to see one. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Templates used by fb templates
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: We don't have a category tree for templates that are used by other templates, and for a good reason. The fact that only 3 templates are listed here shows that even this category is not really used. Gonnym (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Seems almost like WP:PERFCAT but for templates. If someone can explain how this helps the encyclopedia, happy to reconsider. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete — two are already in proper category. Currently unused {{non existing}} has only this category and I've nominated it for deletion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Fb templates not in use
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary (and currently empty) category. If they are not used, they should be nominated at TfD instead of being added to this category. Gonnym (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete A category is the wrong way of handling unused templates. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete — we already have a daily report on unused templates.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rulers by religion
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- The result of the discussion was: manual delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:12, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCEGRS, except for monarchs this is a trivial intersection with religion. Monarchs by religion is a tree on its own and is not part of this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete — WP:OCEGRS. Added template for links and logs to nomination, easier to evaluate.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC) - Manually empty then delete' -- I do not think that a plain delete will work here, as a few articles are currently liable to be orphaned from this tree. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per William Allen Simpson. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:59, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Train and subway fires
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- The result of the discussion was: rename as per nom. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Train and subway fires to Category:Train and rapid transit fires
- Nominator's rationale: Match content. Eliminate "subway", not appropriate in this case.
- William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support, aligning with Category:Rapid transit. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Suggest just Category:Train fires. Subways and rapid transit are normally species of railway. We actually have articles on fires on subways and London underground. There may be merit in separating fires in tunnels from other railway fires as they are particularly nasty. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:16, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is an intersection of train with rapid transit, distinguished from bus rapid transit.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is an intersection of train with rapid transit, distinguished from bus rapid transit.
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Category:Underground rapid transit systems
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Underground rapid transit systems to Category:Subterranean rapid transit
- Nominator's rationale: Match its commons category "Subterranean rapid transit", parent Category:Subterranean buildings and structures, and its parent Category:Subterranea (geography). Another parent is Category:Rapid transit, no "systems" needed.
- Reduce confusion with the London "Underground", and others demonstrated by:
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 2#Category:SkyTrain (Vancouver) stations located above ground
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Category:Underground rapid transit stations located above ground
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12#Category:Underground rapid transit stations located above ground
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 23#Category:Underground rapid transit stations located above ground
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 31#Category:Underground rapid transit stations located above ground in the United States
- Deleted Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 9#Category:Underground rapid transit stations located above ground
- William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:41, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Aidan721, Assimo23, Epicgenius, Joeyconnick, and Marcocapelle: prior participants, as this all started with Vancouver.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support for consistency with previous discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. —Joeyconnick (talk) 19:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support, also per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 05:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Underground rapid transit rolling stock
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT The only entry (Category:London Post Office Railway rolling stock) was underground, but not otherwise categorized as "rapid transit". No rapid transit lines distinguish their rolling stock as exclusively "underground". No upmerge will be necessary as I've already reviewed and restored the earlier parent category.
- William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. – Epicgenius (talk) 05:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Companies based in Porvoo
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Porvoo. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Along with 1-member Category:Companies based in Tampere Estopedist1 (talk) 08:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, but merge to Category:Porvoo and Category:Tampere respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Historians of philosophy by field of study
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: none of the members of this category belong to it, scholars of ancient/medieval/modern/contemporary philosophy are not necessarily historians, these are different things - car chasm (talk) 07:54, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Don't delete, possibly rename, the four subcategories obviously belong together. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete WP:OVERLAPCAT with Category:Philosophy by period. Each of the 4 are under the main 4 periods. Each of the 4 has a see also listing the others. These are not historians. We do not yet have an umbrella Category:Scholars by field of study.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Philosophy teachers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: not a WP:DEFINING characteristic, nearly every philosopher notable enough for a wikipedia page taught philosophy in some capacity or another - car chasm (talk) 07:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Anti-abortion organizations in Denmark
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Anti-abortion organizations. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:18, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 07:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, but merge to Category:Anti-abortion organizations. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, but merge to Category:Anti-abortion organizations. Oculi (talk) 10:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:22, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Xueyantuo rulers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename & reparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:18, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Xueyantuo rulers to Category:Xueyantuo khans
- Nominator's rationale: rename, more specific, and the article titles in this category speak for themselves. After renaming, reparent to Category:Khans instead of Category:Rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename and re-parent as nominated.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - Rename and re-parent per nom and per my own CfD on Category:Rulers. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rationality theorists
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: not a WP:DEFINING characteristic, by its own description. members of the category do not seem to belong to Category:Rationalists so it should be deleted - car chasm (talk) 07:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, by far the most are philosophers and already adequately categorized as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete — seems to be confusing Rationality with Rationalism. Previously no consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 June 3#Category:Rationality theorists.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Göktürk rulers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename & reparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Göktürk rulers to Category:Göktürk khagans
- Nominator's rationale: rename, more specific and aligning with List of Khagans of the Göktürks. After renaming, reparent to Category:Khans instead of Category:Rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename and re-parent as nominated.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - Rename and re-parent per nom and per my own CfD on Category:Rulers. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rulers of Azcapotzalco
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- The result of the discussion was: rename & deparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Rulers of Azcapotzalco to Category:Tlatoque of Azcapotzalco
- Nominator's rationale: rename, more specific, and aligning with parent Category:Tlatoque and siblings such as Category:Tlatoque of Ecatepec. After renaming, remove this category from the Rulers tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Side note: I think the whole tree needs renaming to Tlatoani, but let's leave that discussion for later. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Rename and re-parent as nominated.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC) - Rename and re-parent per nom and per my own CfD on Category:Rulers. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Vegans
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: recreation of category deleted previously: 2013 June 10#Category:Vegans. We have Category:Veganism activists for those for whom it is defining. Oculi (talk) 01:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete WP:G4
William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC) - Speedy Delete Per WP:G4, nothing has changed to warrant reconsideration. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as this is not defining and we have the category veganism activists. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:20, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as non-defining and per all of the above. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:10, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Schools in Harrisonburg, Virginia
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT, this is a small city with only 3 entries. No problem with recreation if more articles are created. User:Namiba 00:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge for Now with no objection to recreation if it ever gets to 5+. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge also to Category:Schools in Virginia. Oculi (talk) 21:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom but manually add Lucy F. Simms School also to Category:Schools in Virginia, per Oculi. The other two articles are already in subcategories thereof. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per above.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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