Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 26
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Category:Divided regions
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 4#Category:Divided regions
Category:Counts of Germany
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:16, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Counts of Germany to Category:Counts in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:German countesses to Category:Countesses in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:Dukes of Germany to Category:Dukes in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:German duchesses to Category:Duchesses in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:German kings to Category:Kings in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:German princes to Category:Princes in Germany
- Propose renaming Category:German princesses to Category:Princesses in Germany
- Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 12#Category:Counts of Italy. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle and RevelationDirect: pinging participants of previous CfR for follow-up. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support, the current names suggest they were ruling a county or duchy named Germany, but that was obviously not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly. And although there have arguably been "kings of Germany", we either call them Category:Kings of the Romans (Reges Romanorum) or "Kings of the Germans/Teutons" (Reges Teutonicorum), see Kingdom of Germany. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support This just more accurately describes the contents to better aid reader navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Electoral Princesses of Hanover
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Electoral Princesses of Hanover to Category:Electresses of Hanover
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:27, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Chilean people of West Asian descent
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant layers. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 17#Category:American people of West Asian descent. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:54, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to parent categories. It is not helpful for navigation to have too many intermediate category layers. When it comes to geography, a continent layer and a country layer are sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:American people of Central Asian descent
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 17#Category:American people of West Asian descent. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to parent categories. It is not helpful for navigation to have too many intermediate category layers. When it comes to geography, a continent layer and a country layer are sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:52, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Language family diasporas
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Finnic diaspora (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Slavic diasporas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Slavic diaspora in Canada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Turkic diasporas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Turkic diaspora in North America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to the deletions of Category:Germanic diaspora, Category:Celtic diaspora, Slavic diaspora, and other language-family-diaspora precedents. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:34, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersections with language family. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Language family of descent part 2
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:People of Finnic descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:American people of Finnic descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Russian people of Finnic descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Chinese people of Turkic descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 24#Category:People by language family of descent. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersections with language family. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:American people of Western European descent
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:American people of Western European descent to Category:American people of European descent
- Propose upmerging Category:American people of Central European descent to Category:American people of European descent
- Propose upmerging Category:American people of Eastern European descent to Category:American people of European descent
- Propose upmerging Category:American people of Southern European descent to Category:American people of European descent
- Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT, WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and redundant layer. All the same categories are already in parent Category:American people of European descent. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 21#Category:Western European people, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 17#Category:American people of West Asian descent, and many other precedents. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to parent categories. It is not helpful for navigation to have too many intermediate category layers. When it comes to geography, a continent layer and a country layer are sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Waste disposal incidents in Missouri
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. No issue with recreating later if needed. User:Namiba 20:16, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, and note that this is the only state subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Video games with AI-versus-AI modes
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 3#Category:Video games with AI-versus-AI modes
Category:Political music albums by artist nationality
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Argentine artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Australian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Indonesian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Iranian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Iraqi artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Israeli artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Italian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Japanese artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Mexican artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by artists from Northern Ireland to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Polish artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Romanian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Scottish artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Singaporean artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by South African artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Tunisian artists to Category:Political music albums
- Propose merging Category:Political music albums by Welsh artists to Category:Political music albums
- Nominator's rationale: SMALLCATs each with just a single entry. Ignore genre categories as music and politics does not present political music as its own genre and it shouldn't be classified as such. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:45, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete entire scheme We don't have album by genre cats when we don't have articles for the genre (or else there would be an infinite amount of sub-sub-sub-genre metal cats). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- The entire scheme has not been nominated (yet) so this should be a merge as nominated rather than a delete. In case the entire scheme is deleted (in a later stage) we might manually move some articles to Category:Protest music. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Agree with Marco that this is beyond the scope of this specific discussion and it would feel inappropriate to change the proposal, but if anyone were to nominate the whole tree for deletion then I'd likely support that. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:18, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- The entire scheme has not been nominated (yet) so this should be a merge as nominated rather than a delete. In case the entire scheme is deleted (in a later stage) we might manually move some articles to Category:Protest music. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete entire scheme We don't have album by genre cats when we don't have articles for the genre (or else there would be an infinite amount of sub-sub-sub-genre metal cats). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge all per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Upmerge per nom. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Asian women's volleyball championships
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:04, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: C2D ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 01:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Question, why wouldn't we just merge this to Category:Asian Women's Volleyball Championship?Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 27 August 2023 (UTC)- @Marcocapelle is that not exactly what's being proposed? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- You are completely right. I wonder what went on in my mind when I wrote this. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle is that not exactly what's being proposed? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Asian men's volleyball championships
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:03, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: C2D ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 01:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Members of the Kit-Kat Club
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:06, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Charles_Dartiquenave_by_Sir_Godfrey_Kneller%2C_Bt_%282%29.jpg/220px-Charles_Dartiquenave_by_Sir_Godfrey_Kneller%2C_Bt_%282%29.jpg)
- Proposed Deleting Category:Members of gentlemen's clubs
- Propose Deleting Category:Members of the Kit-Kat Club
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCASSOC, WP:PERFCAT, & WP:NONDEFINING
The Kit-Kat Club was an 18th century gentlemen's club in London. At the time, it was known for Whig politics but now it's mostly remembered for popularizing a new format for portraits. The membership is not treated as defining since most of the articles don't even mention this, although a minority mention being a member or getting a portrait done there. The only exception is Charles Dartiquenave who has a whole section but it's mostly about how awesome his portrait is, which I've shared here for your admiration. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Background No conceptual objection to the parent category but this is the last subcategory we haven't already deleted; see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - A list already exists here: Kit-Cat_Club#Notable_members. - jc37 13:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Members of Chunichi Shimbun
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:06, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Propose Deleting Category:Members of Chunichi Shimbun
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CATNAME and maybe WP:OCASSOC
- The only article in this category is Toki Ginjiro who was a deputy editor of the Tokyo Shimbun newspaper which is owned by the Chunichi Shimbun media company. I don't think that Mr. Ginjiro is a "member" of that parent company in any sense and wonder if that is a translation issue. (If other articles can be found, no objection to creating a "people" category later for employees.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, a single-article category does not aid navigation. If kept, rename to Category:Chunichi Shimbun people. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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Biography articles needing translation from Slovenian Wikipedia
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 3#Biography articles needing translation from Slovenian Wikipedia