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Category:1744 establishments in Saudi Arabia
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Propose deleting:
- Category:1744 establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1744 in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (this and below added later --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC))
- Category:1740s establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1740s in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1745 in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1745 establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1780s establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1780s in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1789 establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:1789 in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:18th century in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:18th-century establishments in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Category:Years of the 18th century in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Anachronism. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932. AFAICS, in 1744 this area was part of the Ottoman Empire BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: Wouldn't this also apply to every pre-1932 subcategory of Category:Years in Saudi Arabia? Armbrust The Homunculus 14:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: yes. I haven't investigated how far these anchronism extend. I just spotted these new 18th-century cats. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Notifications: I have notified[1] WikiProject Saudi Arabia. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: This may be unnecessarily pedantic, but the first Saudi state existed from 1744–1818, and the second Saudi state from 1824–1891. Do we need to capture all that detail in the category tree? I don't know, I'm neutral on deleting these. --Cerebellum (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support, Emirate of Diriyah is the only article in these categories that really is about the 18th century. If more articles would have existed I would have suggested merging all of it to Category:Emirate of Diriyah. 21:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support I have boldly created Category:Establishments in the Arabian Peninsula to contain all the articles in the nominated categories. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- The various emirates in the Arabian peninsula might need a category each, if there were enough articles to populate them adequately. In the meantime "Arabian Peninsula" categories will do the job well. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Amalgam Comics characters
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Amalgam Comics characters to Category:Amalgam Comics
- Nominator's rationale: List of Amalgam Comics characters should be upmerged to all three categories. The others are all redirects. All child categories are filled with redirects, so none of them need to be merged. TTN (talk) 14:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom, though if the subcategories aren't deleted per nominations below they should be included in the merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Amalgam Comics superheroes
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: All redirects, so no need to categorize. TTN (talk) 14:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support, all of them redirect to the same List article, so this is very unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Amalgam Comics supervillains
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: All redirects, so no need to categorize. TTN (talk) 14:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support, all of them redirect to the same List article, so this is very unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:36, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Amalgam Comics teams
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: All redirects, so no need to categorize. Child category is all redirects as well. TTN (talk) 14:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support, all of them redirect to the same List article, so this is very unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Amalgam Comics superhero teams
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: All redirects, so no need to categorize. TTN (talk) 14:22, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support, all of them redirect to the same List article, so this is very unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Greyhawk deities
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 20#Category:Greyhawk deities
Category:Abortion in Insular areas of the United States
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 12:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. feminist (talk) 13:33, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- keep Category now has 5 proper articles. Hmains (talk) 05:36, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to Category:Abortion in insular areas of the United States per Hmains. Thanks for the additions. feminist (talk) 07:06, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Game show fan user templates
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Television game show fan user templates. MER-C 20:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Game show fan user templates to TBD
- Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, as there was no consensus at CFDS. Option A rename to Category:Television game show fan user templates (2 votes at CFDS); option B rename to Category:Television game shows fan user templates (1 vote at CFDS). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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- @Gonnym, Armbrust, and Fayenatic london: pinging contributors to CFDS discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
OPtion Bseems more in line with others in Category:Fandom user templates. Oculi (talk) 07:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Oculi: Really? Which ones? The singular is used in every case apart from "sports", which can be considered a special case. – Fayenatic London 08:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry - the nom is somewhat confusing (to me, anyway) as option 1 in the speedy has become Option B in the nom. rename to Category:Television game show fan user templates. Oculi (talk) 08:51, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Oculi: Really? Which ones? The singular is used in every case apart from "sports", which can be considered a special case. – Fayenatic London 08:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Television game show fan user templates. There is no need for double pluralisation in the category's title. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Television game show fan user templates. Catfurball (talk) 20:19, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Storytelling societies
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- The result of the discussion was: rename without prejudice against re-creation as a sub-cat. – Fayenatic London 16:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Storytelling societies to Category:Storytelling organizations
- Nominator's rationale: While it's true that some organizations are called "societies", there isn't a meaningful or defining distinction between "societies" and other types of organizations in this context — so the result was that some non-"society" organizations were getting filed here anyway, while others were just being thrown directly into the parent Category:Storytelling instead. There should be just one category for all types of storytelling organizations, not one for the "societies" and none for the other kinds of organizations. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Suggest creating Category:Storytelling organizations as a parent for Category:Storytelling societies. There are XXX organizations which are not XXX societies. Category:Literary societies seems to have been subcatted by editors with little grasp of parent/child/neither distinctions. Oculi (talk) 07:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Oculi: in this scenario, which articles should be kept in the societies category? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:MHz Worldview affiliates
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:45, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: MHz Worldview has ceased operations as a broadcast network and is now a streaming-only service. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Metronome Records artists
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- The result of the discussion was: merge and redirect. – Fayenatic London 13:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category Warner Music Sweden artists already exists. Eurohunter (talk) 09:32, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Support - turning into a soft redirect would probably be advisable. Grutness...wha? 03:47, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter and Grutness: Question, shouldn't the category be merged to Category:Warner Music Sweden artists instead of deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:09, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Good point - yes, I think so. Grutness...wha? 02:50, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Films directed by Kadiri Venkata Reddy
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- The result of the discussion was: rename and redirect for now, as the article has been reverted again to the short name without further challenge. – Fayenatic London 16:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Match the parent article, K. V. Reddy. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment, alternatively the article could be moved back to its original name. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done, seeing as there was no discussion to move it to the shortened name. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:30, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose nomination, as there hasn't been any further discussion about the article name. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: WP:COMMONNAME also applies; see how many results K. V. Reddy renders when compared to Kadiri Venkata Reddy. In film credits (an example here at 1:01), the abbreviated name is used. In fact, Rajasekhar1961 had (maybe he still does) this bad habit of moving articles of film personalities to longer titles instead of their common names (eg: he moved Padmanabham to Basavaraju Venkata Padmanabha Rao with the reasoning, "His complete correct name"). --Kailash29792 (talk) 06:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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