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November 26

Category:Top Cow Universe characters

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents to Category:Top Cow characters. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Top Cow Universe article doesn't exist in any form, apart from Top Cow Productions, also redundant to Category:Top Cow characters. Brandmeistertalk 18:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:AlunaGeorge

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:EPONCAT and WP:SMALLCAT. snαp snαp (talk) 17:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rock cut reliefs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 13:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per main article Rock relief. "Rock-cut" should be hyphenated anyway. They are the same thing. Plan B: Rename to Category:Hittite rock reliefs, and I will tidy the few in the category that aren't. I don't really mind. Johnbod (talk) 11:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Plan A. In terms of Plan B, Category:Hittite art is so small at the moment that there's probably no need for a separate Category:Hittite rock reliefs. Furius (talk) 14:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I agree. Btw, Furius created Category:Rock cut reliefs, which I didn't see when I created Category:Rock reliefs. Johnbod (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as nom. The two are covering the same subject; neither seems to have any narrow geographic area, so that the best solution is to amalgamate them. I would not oppose a reverse merge, if others preferred that. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:16, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional characters who have made pacts with devils

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The result of the discussion was: not renamed. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 13:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction, fictional events should be written about in the present tense, and I believe this should apply to category names as well. AnemoneProjectors (Peter O'Connor) 10:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It makes it sound like the characters do these actions multiple time, when they usually only do these actions once. JDDJS (talk) 22:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: When reading about fiction on Wikipedia, it's always written in the present tense but I don't believe you would read it and think something happens multiple times in a story just because of the tense. However, you could read or view the fiction multiple times. An example, in Lady Macbeth, the article states, "She dies off-stage, with suicide being suggested as its cause", not "she died". In Othello (character): "he commits suicide." In fact, in every stage version of Mcabeth, Lady Macbeth dies, so you can argue that it does happen multiple times. Every time I watch "Ghost in the Machines", Bender makes a pact with the Robot Devil. For every time it's played somewhere in the world, it's happening, so again, I can argue that that's multiple times. AnemoneProjectors (Peter O'Connor) 11:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The attempted suicide, it can happen multiple times but sometimes it only happens once where something stops the individual.Awinters90 (talk) 16:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Attorney–client privilege

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 13:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Legal professional privilege is the general article about this legal principle in all common-law countries. Attorney–client privilege is an article about legal professional privilege in the United States. The nominated category is collecting articles about the general principle, regardless of jurisdiction, and so should be named after the broader, general principle, not the US-specific term. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leave Redirect if Moved The target name will be almost unknown to American readers/editors so please leave a redirect if moved. I'll defer to other editors if this proposal provides more of a global perspective. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:46, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Works by Hugo Pratt

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted WP:G7 by Liz. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 13:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Works by Hugo Pratt: Category:Works by Hugo Pratt. I created this category, but "Category:Comics by Hugo Pratt" covers the matter better and is more in line with categories of works by other comics artists. Since the category has no pages now it can be deleted as soon as possible. - User:Kjell Knudde, November 26, 2015 7:41 (CET).
  • Speedy per WP:G7, author request. @Kjell Knudde:, if you create a category and then immediately think better of it, you just need to go to an admin's talk page and ask them to zap it for you; a CFD nomination isn't needed. Check some of the earlier CFD discussions to see who closed them if you need some contacts.RevelationDirect (talk) 10:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Moving "Works by ..." to "Comics by..."

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Works by Hergé": Category:Works by Hergé: I have nothing against this category, but all the other comics artists have their works categorized as "Comics by...". Therefore I feel the category should be renamed as "Category:Comics by Hergé". - User:Kjell Knudde, November 26, 2015 7:50 (CET).
  • Another suggestion for the category would be keeping "Works by Hergé", if only for that one play, and recategorizing all the comics as the subcategory "Comics by Hergé". That way the play can be listed under "Works by Hergé" and all his comics under "Comics by Hergé", which enables them to be categorized on the "Comics by writer" category page. - User:Kjell Knudde, November 26, 2015 12:15 (CET).
  • OK, so I see a lot of support for the second suggestion. Then I'll just remove the suggestion tag and make the proposed changes right now? Or do I have to wait a few more weeks first? - User:Kjell Knudde, November 30, 2015 13:07 (CET)

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Identical military awards issued more than once to the same person

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Instead of creating multiple lists which may or may not be maintained, I am pasting the contents of each category (except for the Medal of Honor since a list already exists at Medal of Honor#Double recipients) to the talk page of the respective article about or list of recipients of the award:
If someone wishes to create one or more lists, I recommend either creating a single List of recipients of [military award] for each award and simply identifying multiple-time recipients in some manner, or expanding existing content within the articles (e.g. Order of the Red Star lists multiple-time recipients). -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:50, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Poland
Soviet Union
16 subcategories
United States
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT and WP:NONDEFINING
These categories all group people by how many times they have received the same exact military award, not different levels or degrees of an award. This seems trivial because the people who won the Red Bannner 7 times don't have any more or less in common with each other than those that only won it 4 times, for example. (I'm not asserting that winning the underlying award is undefining under WP:EPONCAT.) For earlier CfD discussions with multiple award subcategories, see here and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I notified Folks at 137 as the primary category creator and I added this discussion to WikiProject Soviet Union. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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