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February 10

Sailing by class

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename most. While the discussion did not make this clear, I think the only one here not approved is Category:Sailing by class since that is the only one discussed, so that is a keep.Vegaswikian (talk) 19:17, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge/rename following names of main articles, see in Category:Olympic sailboat classes. The parent is unnecessary and can be merged to the latter. This is a follow up nomination after a discussion at WP:CFDS, but the last entry here is not eligible for speedy merging. – Fayenatic London 23:33, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Potential members of editor retention programme

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 11:02, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categorizing Wikipedians for something they may potentially do is (IMO) taking user categorization too far. If kept, this should be renamed to something more meaningful such as "Wikipedians who have expressed an interest in ..." or "Wikipedians who have been invited to join ..." (although I'm not sure that the latter is the sort of category that should be encouraged). DexDor (talk) 22:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Video Processing and Encoding Solution Companies

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:13, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category that appears to have been created for a specific article. DexDor (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Winners of the Los Angeles Times Women of the Year

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The result of the discussion was: listify, then delete. MER-C 12:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Having won this award is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of its recipients (e.g. Martha Watson). See WP:OC#AWARD. DexDor (talk) 22:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be better to create a list article instead? There may be recipients who are not notable enough to have their own articles in any case. For example Sister Frederica Horvath of the Sisters_of_Social_Service. To me, the existence of the award is important, if largely forgotten. This was one woman's effort to highlight the efforts of women who were taking part in the affairs of the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mellen22 (talkcontribs) 22:26, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you have a WP:RS that can be used to create a list then please go ahead. The articles I looked at made no mention of this award in the text (let alone a prominent mention with cite) so it would not be appropriate to use the category contents as the basis for creating a list. DexDor (talk) 06:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listify This seems like a reasonable enough thing to have as a list. I think the judgement of whether enough citations are present for the material is a question for the content space, not this category discussion. SFB 18:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A decision to delete a category does not indicate that a list can't exist. DexDor (talk) 22:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ancient Roman forts in Hunedoara County‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: because of WP:SMALLCAT and because no other county categories exist within the parent Romanian category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman legions' camps in Romania‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 11:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: because of WP:SMALLCAT and because every Roman fort may be expected to provide a camp to Roman legions. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Vishwakarma

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 page category. Redtigerxyz Talk 10:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tahitian paintings

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin. As this would empty the parent category Category:Tahitian art, I am going to put the five current members into that category as well; however, this is not part of the consensus, so feel free to remove this category if it is considered inappropriate. – Fayenatic London 09:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Tahitian paintings may imply those made by native Tahitian artists, while currently the category contains solely Gauguin's paintings. The proposed name is somewhat provisional, may be there's an established name for Gauguin's Tahitian period, but I didn't find it during quick search. Brandmeistertalk 10:18, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support this makes better sense and also groups his Tahitian paintings together in Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin (which I have just added as a parent category - if this category is kept, the paintings should only be in the sub-category not also in the parent category). The weakness of my support is because the categories within Category:Paintings by artist are usually only sub-divided for portraits or in cases of prolific painters (Van Gogh) and I'm not entirely convinced that we need a subcat for four paintings. The alternative is double upmerge to Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin and Category:Tahitian art. (But is it part of "Tahitian art" or should it be part of "Art in Tahiti"? If a Frenchman paints a picture of Rome, is that part of "Category:Italian art" or "Category:Art in Italy", or neither? How is this usually tackled?) BencherliteTalk 10:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Another deficiency of our cat scheme. Books, paintings, etc. are not easily categorized by nationality. They don't have passports. Are the Elgin Marbles English, because that's where they are? Are they Greek? or Athenian - as the state in which they were created? Is the Bible an Israeli book? a Roman book? Frankenstein English (author) or Swiss (where written) or French (first published with attribution)? Since we cannot OBJECTIVELY define nationality for works of authorship, we ought not. Paintings by Gauguin in Tahiti as an objective period of an artist is fine, Tahitian or French paintings isn't. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Definitely needs to change. Could Category:Paintings of Paul Gauguin's Tahitian period be a sensible option? I'm open to other prepositions if "of" is not quite right. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:16, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as proposed. This group of works is broadly understood as the Tahitian paintings. Classifiying the works by the period he was in Tahiti may not work well as he also did non-Tahiti influenced works during that period (see paintings list). SFB 18:17, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin. The category only contains about half the "Tahitian" Gaugins we have articles on, and the articles generally don't say where the paintings were actually painted. Gauguin spent several years (and died) on the Marquesas Islands; should works painted there be excluded? We typically don't categorize on where paintings were made, or that level of detail in subject matter and style, and I don't think we should. Johnbod (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin. As above. The idea that the Tahitian paintings are authentically "Tahitian" is fairly dubious anyway. There's a strong overlap with his "primitive" Bretton paintings and I think the idea that they are authentically "Bretton" is also suspect now. What about organising Paintings by Paul Gauguin by decade? That would at least provide some sort of context, assuming we think that his art developed in some sort of chronological way. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Category:Paintings by Paul Gauguin. We should avoid too fine categorization of paintings. Keep to standard divisions in most cases. Thematic sub-divisions of an artists works can be done in the articles or if that gets unruly in lists.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Yugoslav nationalism

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale; per Yugoslavism. Charles Essie (talk) 02:33, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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