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June 17

Category:Fantasy societal MMORPGs

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete as nominated. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Criteria for inclusion seems subjective and nebulous, and insufficently defining to be split off from the main category here. In the case of the second, all the contents are already categorised in the main category. The Bushranger One ping only 23:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete You're saying that the Fantasy genre is subjective? You don't say. Benkenobi18 (talk) 12:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
More specifically, that the way the "Fantasy societal" genre is defined in relation to "Fantasy" alone leaves a lot to be desired (and is somewhat weasel-wordy too). - The Bushranger One ping only 21:36, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Neutral comment. I am staying neutral in this. However, I did support this sub-category previously, because the MMORPG categories seemed fairly nebulous, so this sub-category seemed like one possible way to refine these categories. I set up the "societal" sub-category in order to distinguish fantasy MMORPGs which have a fully-realized society, as opposed to those which simply utilize fantasy characters without providing a full societal setting. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 04:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish film and theatre (no. 2)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This now serves as a parent category for one list of actors and three sub-categories: Category:Jewish film, Category:Jewish theatre and Category:Jewish actors, all of which are being kept. Restructure the three sub-cats, putting Category:Jewish film as a direct sub-cat of Category:Jewish media with a "see also" link to Category:Jewish theatre; adding another "see also" link in the reverse direction; and making Category:Jewish actors a sub-category of both Film and Theatre.
There are hardly any other categories combining film and theatre, and this one was created in 2004 long before its sub-cats. The contents were split into Category:Jewish film and Category:Jewish culture starting in 2009. Since that split was finished, the original 2004 category is no longer needed.
After this proposal, there will be one-step navigation between each of those three categories, which is better than the two-step navigation at the moment (up to the nominated category and then down to another sub-cat).
The category currently keeps Category:Jewish film from being categorised as a direct sub-cat of Category:Jewish media, in the way that every other corresponding film/media pair are related. It should prevent Category:Jewish theatre being categorised directly in Category:Jewish culture too; in fact that link is there at the moment, and this is in contravention of WP:SUBCAT.
Although the three sub-cats are all about acting, there is no lead article for Jewish acting. Moreover, it is more common to categorise "Film & television" together, as television is also a medium that has actors, but Category:Jewish television has been left out of this category.
This is a re-nomination following CFD June 14 which became confused. I am making this fresh nomination at the suggestion of the original creator of the category. – Fayenatic London 21:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. IZAK (talk) 04:53, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, provided all the Restructuring is also done, for the reasons given by the nominator. Nothing is lost and everything is improved. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 05:00, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic London 06:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic London 06:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:MLB perfect games

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per naming conventions, this category should not be using the abbreviation "MLB" but the full name. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:48, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Me & My

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only two articles and two subcats., eponymous categories are discouraged. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bachman & Cummings albums

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. The Bushranger One ping only 16:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redlink artist —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Analogs

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only a main article and two subcats, eponymous categories are discouraged. —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:GG Allin

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only two articles other than the main and one subcat. This is all navigated with a footer and eponymous categories are discouraged. —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:29, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Campaigns and theatres of World War II

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main article of the category is List of theaters and campaigns of World War II. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 09:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Christian primitivism

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 21:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:38, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Naturalis Historia Encyclopedia

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The result of the discussion was: result. The Bushranger One ping only 01:23, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting
Nominator's rationale: I think this one, if the description in the subcat is anything to go by, is for articles that are subjects in Pliny's Naturalis Historia. This is an unnecessary level of categorisation. Do you think whatever replaces Wikipedia in 2000 years will have a category for all the articles covered by Wikipedia?. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 03:04, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. For several reasons. 1, any natural historian is concerned about what was known and when. Knowing the extent of Pliny's Natural Historia is crucial to an understanding of the advance of natural sciences over the ages. 2, yes, any successor to Wikipedia will incorporate and revise the information contained within Wikipedia. This is how most encyclopedias work, they build and expand on the previous work. 3, this is another example of a very interesting (and to me, useful), category that represents the work that wikipedia should be doing. Benkenobi18 (talk) 12:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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