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Category:Characters in written fantasy
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Characters in written fantasy to Category:Characters in fantasy literature
- Nominator's rationale: Rename per parent article Fantasy literature. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:10, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 22:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Cuban bloggers
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Keep. Jafeluv (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Category:Cuban bloggers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Not really a category when it has one sole page in it. --Addihockey10 e-mail 11:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously. Part of Category:Bloggers by nationality. (There are thousands of valid categories with 1 entry.) Occuli (talk) 14:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes indeed, Keep as part of an established structure, per WP:SMALLCAT. (And given what I imagine is the difficulty is simply being a blogger in Cuba, all the more interesting...) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep Per smallcat. If upmerged, then Category:Bloggers would be unwieldy. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:59, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep - part of an established category structure. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Religion articles without a WikiProject
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 16:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Category:Religion articles without a WikiProject (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. unnecessary. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:16, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete What purpose could this serve? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:32, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Cities in the Persian Empire
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 16:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Category:Cities in the Persian Empire (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. Cities by former country would add a significant amount of category clutter without aiding navigation. One can only imagine how many categories cities like Warsaw or Istanbul would have added to them - not to mention, virtually every city in some countries would be in several categories just by shifting names and borders just since about 1800 in one country we would have - Category:Cities in the United Arab Republic, Category:Cities in the Republic of Egypt, Category:Cities in the Arab Republic of Egypt, Category:Cities in the Kingdom of Egypt, Category:Cities in the British Protectorate of Egypt (Khedivate), Category:Cities in the British Protectorate of Egypt (Sultanate), Category:Cities in the Khedivate of Egypt, Category:Cities in French Egypt, and Category:Cities in Ottoman Egypt - then there's the previous 5000 years of Egypt's history albeit with fewer cities as time goes backward. Let's avoid these by limiting "cities in" to modern borders only. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 08:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and per precedent Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 October 1#Category:Cities in the Ottoman Empire. Tim! (talk) 08:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Bisexual speakers
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:12, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Category:Bisexual speakers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: No parent scheme Category:Speakers or any clear inclusion criteria--all kinds of persons speak in public. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:19, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete as both WP:OC and confusing - it makes it sound like "Bisexual" is a language. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:03, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:College football teams in the National Football League Draft
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 16:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:College football teams in the National Football League Draft to Category:Lists of National Football League draftees by college football team
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. College football teams do not enter the NFL Draft; individual players do. Also add "Lists of...". Jweiss11 (talk) 05:48, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - Shouldn't it be draftees with a lower case 'd' a la NBA high school draftees? I don't think a capitalized D is correct. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- In this case "Draftee" is a modification of National Football League Draft, so I think it carries the capitalization as a proper noun. The way the NBA category is phrased, "draftees" is clearly improper. I'm not beholden either way here as I can see a reasonable interpretation of "National Football League Draftees" with an improper "draftees". Jweiss11 (talk) 03:40, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- I figured that was the rationale for "Draftees", but I just think it looks weird. Even if it is supposed to be an extension of National Football League Draft, it looks like it would make more sense to have it "National Football League draftees" since the new expression (draftees) is now conveying the group of players chosen in an NFL Draft, whereas the old expression (Draft) denotes the draft itself. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:50, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- In this case "Draftee" is a modification of National Football League Draft, so I think it carries the capitalization as a proper noun. The way the NBA category is phrased, "draftees" is clearly improper. I'm not beholden either way here as I can see a reasonable interpretation of "National Football League Draftees" with an improper "draftees". Jweiss11 (talk) 03:40, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. I agree with Jrcla that "draftees" should not be capitalised. Jenks24 (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Tweak nomination. After some more thought, I agree with with Jrcla2. The capitalized "Draftees" does look weird and probably isn't correct from a technical grammar stand-point. Jweiss11 (talk) 21:52, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians with lounges as user pages
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians with lounges as user pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded user category. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Speedy delete given the discussion surrounding M1$CR3ANT (talk · contribs), its only member. --Northernhenge (talk) 22:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Speedy delete - does not contribute to assisting work on the encyclopedia; gag category. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:59, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete/speedy delete - Does not support collaboration. VegaDark (talk) 08:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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