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Category:Democratic Peace Theory to Category:Democratic peace theories

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Democratic peace theory --Kbdank71 15:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This really should be a speedy, but that has been objected to, on the grounds that the related article Democratic peace theory is and has been controversial. The article is, but its name is not in dispute; and the cat, which is quite new, really ought to follow it and standard cat conventions. Septentrionalis 21:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:democratic peace would be acceptable. Septentrionalis 01:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jesuit to Category:Society of Jesus

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An adjective is an odd title for a category when we have a perfectly good name to use for it. Note that Category:Jesuits, the common name, is already in use for members of the order. Necrothesp 20:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:State supreme court judges in the U.S. to Category:State supreme court judges in the United States

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was a speedy to change U.S. to United States. Objections raised so bringing it here. Vegaswikian 20:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. politicians by state to Category:United States politicians by state

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The result of the debate was rename to category:American politicians by state --Kbdank71 15:01, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was a speedy to change U.S. to United States. Objections raised so bringing it here. Vegaswikian 20:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:UK Green Parties to Category:Green political parties in the United Kingdom

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Standard lower-case. Standard naming convention. Mais oui! 18:47, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fungal physiology

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 14:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only contained two items, and is basically overlapping with mycology anyway. Stemonitis 14:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was a little hasty there, but it was almost empty anyway, and any article that was in it could easily be put in both Category:Mycology (where they already are, incidentally) and Category:Physiology, achieving the same effect, but without the small, superfluous category. --Stemonitis 14:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mycological literature

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This category contained a single entry (List of mycological journals), and since that list only includes two items, the category seems doomed to smallness. Stemonitis 14:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Indian Business People to Category:Indian businesspeople

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The result of the debate was merge as nominated --Kbdank71 14:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate. Merge CalJW 14:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Schools by establishment year and subcategories

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These categories are named in American English, and are quite wrong in Commonwealth English, where post secondary institutions are never referred to as schools. They need new names which will be clear to everyone.

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Category:Wikipedia rejected policies

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should be "Wikipedia rejected proposals". Radiant_>|< 13:06, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia discussions

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another redundant and hardly-used categorization of Wikipedia pages. Radiant_>|< 11:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians who have no spleen

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, silly. Radiant_>|< 11:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians by physical attribute

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All subcats are on CFD, delete. Radiant_>|< 11:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional profanity users

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not encyclopedic, covers too many characters to be even remotely useful. --MisterHand 08:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Railroad terminals of New York City to Category:Railroad terminals in New York City

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to match siblings in Category:Buildings and structures in New York City. Choalbaton 06:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Members of the U.S. House of Representatives by state to Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives by state

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The result of the debate was both cats are redlinks at time of closing, no action taken. Syrthiss 13:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To change the U.S. to United States. Also, all of the subcats for this category have the same form and should also be changed. Don't know if they all need a template of if it can be done from this one nomination. Vegaswikian 05:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Hawaiian geography

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The result of the debate was merge. Syrthiss 13:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Recently created and Category:Geography of Hawaii already exists. JonHarder 04:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This also helps ensure consistency with main article's Hawaiian Islands title. WikiProject Hawai‘i Participant Bob_Burkhart Lenexa Kansas
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Category:Well endowed Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was delete with large fire from orbit. Syrthiss 13:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1) For the sake of balance if Category:Wikipedians with tiny penises has been nominated. 2) On account of its ungrammatical construction - should be "well-endowed". 3) Issues relating to verifiability. Valiantis 04:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Scottish Egyptologists to Category:British Egyptologists

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The result of the debate was keep. Syrthiss 13:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overcategorisation. See my comments re: Category:English Egyptologists below. The Scottishness or Englishness of an Egyptologist is not central to his or her work, so the standard scheme of subcategorising by nationality defined by country should apply. Valiantis 04:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I have played a role in getting inappropriate subject area English categories deleted, but it is not inappropriate to subdivide people between the different parts of the UK. Unlike many subject area categories for England this does not misrepresent the way things are organised in the real world, it simply makes an extra click necessary to reach the articles. That is a price worth paying as I would expect all the articles about Scottish people to be in Category:Scottish people. CalJW 08:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge (and I'm Scottish) There is nothing wrong with subdividing large categories into the respective part of the UK, however there is little point in creating what will always be a small category. Further, while someone might be interested in finding 'Scottish sprinters' ot 'Scottish inventors', I cannot really imagine anyone being interested in finding out which Egyptologists were specifically Scottish (and if they were a quick look at the few articles in the British category would soon tell them). --Doc ask? 13:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The beauty of these cats is that they are a wonderful cross-referencing tool: eg. this one is also a subcat of Category:Scottish archaeologists. When we destroy a cat we also destroy lots of little routes by which researchers can find articles. Also, the cat may be small, but can Doc really tell us how many notable Scottish Egyptologists there have been? Remember, Wikipedia is in its infancy.--Mais oui! 14:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The nationality of these individuals was one of the their most important attributes when they were born and that didn't change when they took up Egyptology. Osomec 15:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I accept the rationales of most of the posters, though I don't necessarily agree with them. I would query Osomec's point, however. No-one is suggesting that Egyptologists should not be categorised by nationality. However, the legal nationality of all concerned is British. There is no legal Scottish or English nationality; no-one is a citizen of Scotland or England. Valiantis 04:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • You are treating nation and state as synonyms. They are not synonymous.--Mais oui! 13:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • No, I'm not. I'm not disputing that there is such a thing as a cultural Scottish or English nationality. I am raising an issue about the standards we use for categorising by nationality and in this the standard is that the nationality matches an independent state. The legal nationality of people who are citizens of the UK is British. If we allow categories by cultural nationality where culture is not germane (as it isn't in the case of Egyptologists) we are opening the way to a huge escalation of POV disputes. I would similarly nominate for deletion putative cats such as "Catalonian Egyptologists", "Breton Egyptologists", "Sorbian Egyptologists", "Kurdish Egyptologists" etc. These are clearly cultural identities, and some may describe them as nationalities, but there is no independent state called Catalonia, Brittany, Sorbia or Kurdistan. As exceptions to this general rule, I would suggest user cats and cats that relate to directly to culture. So I have no issues with Category:Scottish writers or Category:Catalonian writers as the culture in which such writers operate is determined by their Scottishness or "Catalonian-ness". The cultures in which Egyptologists work are those of Ancient Egypt and those of international science. In such cats, categorisation by nationality is merely a useful tool to subdivide cats by occupation. It shouldn't be used to push POV on the existence of any nationality other than a definable legal one. Valiantis 19:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • If you took that argument to its logical conclusion then we would have to remove Shakespeare, Newton, Raleigh, Elizabeth I, Owen Glendyr, Robert I, William Wallace and thousands of other biographical articles from :Category:British people; and Beethoven and Brahms from :Category:German people; and Da Vinci and Dante from :Category:Italian people. None of those people were ever citizens of those states.--Mais oui! 23:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep No different from dozens of other Scottish/Welsh/English categories. Bhoeble 12:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Wikipedians with tiny penises

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The result of the debate was delete with fire from orbit. Syrthiss 13:24, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian categorization has become entirely too silly. (Not to mention that the proper name would presumably be "Wikipedians with a tiny penis"). —Kirill Lokshin 03:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC) Delete with much laughter. Justin Eiler 04:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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