Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yusuf Khel

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yusuf Khel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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PROD'd (not by me) with the following rationale: "Unsourced and one single colonial era source was added that I removed and there is no enough sources for the topic to add. It showed that the topic of the article is non notable topic. Good faith"

De-PROD'd with the following edit summary: "This user is only targeting Pashtun related pages"

Coming upon this from the orphaned article category, I have no stake in that dispute and no idea whether that is accurate. I can say that I concur with the PROD rationale; I also found no non-Raj era sources. ♠PMC(talk) 11:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 13:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments:
  1. The person who proposed the article’s deletion has, in fact, “targeted” a number of poorly sourced articles about Pashtun tribes. That doesn’t mean they’re wrong.
  2. For more information on the person who removed the PROD tag, see:
A. B. (talkcontribsglobal count) 15:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 13:53, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:00, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Draft - I think the fairest thing to do here is to draftify. I see whispers in sources that it is a verifiable thing, but these tend to be mentions. It may well be a thing discussed in depth in Pashtun sources. I can't find them and unless someone else offers them, I'm not sure any of the rest of us are in a position to assess them. JMWt (talk) 08:42, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    We should not be draftifying articles that are over five years old. We also cannot simply assume that in-depth sourcing exists - we don't need the actual sources, but we need proof of their existence. Otherwise we would be forced to keep anything with potential for non-English sourcing, no matter how little actual indication there is of it. ♠PMC(talk) 09:07, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - no refs found for Yusuf Khel as a tribe or caste. Multiple passing mentions for villages with this name in Afghanistan and Pakistan: [1], [2], [3], [4]
We could potentially edit this stub into a geographic stub with the same name but that seems a potentially confusing thing to do during an AfD - better to first delete this and then start one or two new stubs later if desired
--A. B. (talkcontribsglobal count) 16:26, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.