Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/X-Men '97

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The result was Move to Draft:X-Men '97.. Sandstein 12:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Animated series that is currently scheduled to be released in 2023, so it is clearly still very early in the development process, barely in pre-production. Per WP:NFF, it should be draftified as soon as possible. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Draftify WP:TOOSOON. Pahiy (talk) 01:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Draftify This is an odd one. If it goes back to draft, there's a risk of this tug of war between draftspace and mainspace for most likely a year. – The Grid (talk) 02:41, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify Until there is confirmed actual animation occurring per WP:NFF, this should be in the draft space. That's a clear benchmark it needs to hit to justify its existence in the mainspace. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (Strong Keep, to be honest). Many reliable sources are already discussing it in depth, and it's already getting significant coverage. Secondly, a frame of its animation was shown in its announcement — so it's safe to say that production has started. Thirdly, if it's draftified, it's unclear where the information in this article would temporarily reside — which indeed might lead to a tug-of-war. Paintspot Infez (talk) 04:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Virtually all of the shows announced today at Disney+ Day are being discussed extensively by reliable sources, so I see no reason why this one should be exempt from WP:NFF. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:24, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  What frame was shown? I didn't see any, only the use of the Wolverine picture frame meme from the original series, along with the series logo. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:35, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  This character sheet was shown, that along with multiple directors, producers and voice actors announced indicate this is already in production. - --JoaumBoladaum (talk) 16:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  That's just a screenshot of the logo from the Disney+ special, not an actual frame of the series. Like I said, it's still early in its pre-production stage. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:28, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify: Per nominator. It's WP:TOOSOON. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 17:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify, per all of the above arguments for that outcome. The draft will not be left idle, given the project to which it is attached. BD2412 T 22:24, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Draft so that it can be published when the show aired on Television. Berantral (talk) 13:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify WP:NORUSH, two years away from release and we haven't gotten any footage from the show. - Richiekim (talk) 14:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify according to WP:TOOSOON as not a lot of details have extensively been revealed and also according to WP:NFF, due to the series not starting production. WellThisIsTheReaper (talk) 03:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to X-Men (TV series)#Revival, then split it out again at the appropriate time. That keeps the information available to readers and will (hopefully) prevent recreation in the meantime. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • More info can definitely be put at the "Revival" section, and "X-Men '97" will redirect there, but that shouldn't prevent what currently exists to still exist as a draft to be built as the proper article until it can move back. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have no problem with it being drafted, but I didn't see any discussion here about redirection or merging. I saw a lot of talk about procedural timing instead of what would benefit readers. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:34, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Gotcha. Well obviously as a result of it being drafted, you can't have a mainspace redirect to the draftspace, so X-Men '97 will then need to redirect to X-Men (TV series)#Revival. And I don't see having this deletion discussion as any reason to not go ahead with adding more info at that section now if necessary. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify I have no further arguments to add to what's already been discussed and linked above, as I agree with the relevant policies and guidelines already stated; this article is existing too soon. -- /Alex/₂₁ 08:07, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.