Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willis McDaniel

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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Willis McDaniel

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Despite what the lone source claims, I do not believe McDaniel ever played in the negro leagues. No other online sources back this up, he lacks a Baseball-Reference or Seamheads negro league page, and does not appear in James A. Riley's The Biographical Encyclopedia of the Negro Baseball Leagues. Therefore, he fails WP:GNG and WP:BASE/N. Penale52 (talk) 19:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets notability. When you say he doesn't appear, do you mean to this website? [1] BlackAmerican (talk) 21:26, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That confirms that he exists, but it doesn't confirm that he played in the negro leagues. No stats, years, or teams are listed. If it can't be proven that he played at least one game in a top-level negro league game, he doesn't pass WP:BASE/N. Penale52 (talk) 23:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One source says he played in the negro leagues. All the sources you listed show some people playing and others not playing. Neither are comprehensive. Playing means he played, and thus qualifies as satisfying. So he passes GNG. BlackAmerican (talk) 03:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That Baseball-Reference page doesn't even confirm that its the same person as the article as there is biographical information. It could have been a person with the same name who was listed on a minor league roster at some point, a minor league umpire, as Baseball-Reference (Minors) has pages like that for both. And that lone passing mention about him in that book literally says absolutely nothing about his career, with no positions or teams or years. McDaniel may have played on semi-pro teams, or maybe even was on a roster of an actual negro league teams, but again there are absolutely no sources with can prove that he ever played a regular season,major league quality game in the negro leagues, which is needed to pass #3 of WP:BASE/N. A passing mention in a book which contains almost nothing about what supposedly this person is notable for, and a Baseball-Reference page with no biographical or statistical information is not enough to pass GNG.--Penale52 (talk) 13:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Penale52 (talk) 13:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Source says played. It didn't say he was on the roster. BlackAmerican (talk) 16:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is no verifiable proof that he played in the Negro Leagues and no substantial coverage of him from any sources. Find proof of games he appeared in and we can revist... possibly would consider a redirect to the article on Jimmie McDaniel, his son as a compromise. Spanneraol (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails GNG, no convincing evidence that he actually played in the Negro Leagues. Lepricavark (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unfortunately there does not appear to be any definite source that verifies that the subject actually played in the Negro Leagues. Only reference to him playing in the Negro Leagues is from an article in "World Tennis" magazine about Jimmie McDaniel and the Jimmie McDaniel entry in the book "Blacks at the Net: Black Achievement in the History of CBS527^Talk 02:19, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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