Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weather of Armenia

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The result was keep. v/r - T P 15:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weather of Armenia

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We do not have this kind of articles for other small countries. Most "climate of.." type articles redirect to the geography section in the article about the country. This article can be deleted and redirect to Armenia#Climate MakeSense64 (talk) 08:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I dunno - we have Weather of Olympia, Washington which is a heckuva lot smaller and less significant than an independent state. I don't have a problem with an article on a country's weather, although individual cities (even state capitals) seems a bit much. --Legis (talk - contribs) 09:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are very few "weather in.." articles. The better name is "climate of..". There are only 44 such articles in this category: Category:Climate by city. I think they are unnecessary content forks. Pages like Climate of Sweden, Climate of the Netherlands and Climate in London all redirect to the main article about the country or city. Then why do we need standalone articles like Climate of Nawabshah and Weather of Armenia? MakeSense64 (talk) 10:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that "climate of.." is better than "weather in..". Note that Category:Climate by country is well populated. As for the Climate of Nawabshah article, while I agree that the climate of a city is pushing the boundaries, but if it is a notable topic and can be referenced and can justify a stand-alone article then that is acceptable. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 18:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It depends what we consider "well populated". I see some 50 countries in that category. But there are about 200 countries in the world. So this implies that 150 countries do not have standalone "Climate of ..." articles. I think a standalone climate article makes sense in some cases, e.g. where a country stretches through many different climate zones. Russia is a good example. But for places like Holland, there is only one climate zone, so it easily fits in the article about the country. While Armenia has a few climate zones, the Armenia article is not that big that it needs to split off a climate article.

For the "Climate by city" articles I intend to look which ones can be merged into the main city article. I do not think there are (m)any keepers there, since even Climate of London redirects to London. MakeSense64 (talk) 07:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 13:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 13:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but redirect to Climate of Armenia (itself a redir) and rewrite to improve the tone. "Weather of Armenia" is a valid search string, and the climate rather than weather for a country is a notable topic. Have a look at the contents of Category:Climate by country - it is well populated. Note to nominator: not having equivalent articles is not a reason for deletion. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 18:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but not having equivalent articles is also not a reason to keep. And maintaining some consistency throughout an encyclopedia is also useful. So we now find the weather/climate of Armenia in three different places: Geography_of_Armenia#Climate , Armenia#Climate and Weather of Armenia. Doesn't that mean we can delete the latter one, especially since it is poorly sourced, and as you point out: it is "climate" that is the more notable topic? MakeSense64 (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the need for consistency. Once this article is moved to Climate of Armenia both Armenia#Climate and Geography_of_Armenia#Climate will have a {{Main}} template followed by a summary. That is how is done everywhere elese in WP. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 20:33, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We should also delete Weather of Olympia, Washington. It seems rather pointless and chocka-block full of trivia & niché statistics. E.g: who on Earth cares whether January 1 is or isn't the "Statistical coldest day of the year" in Olympia?--Coin945 (talk) 02:54, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I will put it up for deletion. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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