Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warren Woods Tower High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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High school article with minimal content and no assertion of notability about the school. —C.Fred (talk) 02:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Saeed Jahed 05:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Here we go again: high schools are not inherently notable, and WP:SCHOOL failed. The creation of a wikiproject does not automatically confer notability to its subject. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WP:SCHOOL was rejected by the community. Green caterpillar 17:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Let the fun begin. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Having this squabble over and over again isn't "fun", it's a totally futile waste of time. Golfcam 23:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Abstain because Delete even though this article is going to be kept, but and I would like to point out that, not only does it say almost nothing, but it pulls in a whopping two Google News results, one from an article that isn't about the school but rather a person from the school, and one giving local softball results. I'd be curious to know how the inevitable keep voters plan to expand this. GassyGuy 07:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not by researching it on Google, but by giving knowledge acquired through actual experience with the school. That's how most information on small towns, colleges, etc gets added anyway. AdamBiswanger1 23:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the well reason arguments documented at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. This and all other secondary schools are notable enough for an encyclopedia aiming to provide the complete sum of human knowledge. Not that notability is a requirement for inclusion. Silensor 09:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • enough for an encyclopedia aiming to provide the complete sum of human knowledge.

If you find such an encyclopedia, add this article to it. If you think this is such an encyclopedia, you have greatly misunderstood the stated aims of Wikipedia. -- GWO

You're the one with the misunderstanding problem, as these are always kept, and the founder of Wikipedia is in favor of them being kept. Golfcam 23:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. They're not always kept. That's an outright fabrication. A policy insisting they're always kept was rejected by the community, and the community outranks Jimbo. -- GWO

• Delete there is nothing notable or interesting about the school. If we want to note its existence, Merge into relevant school district.Catchpole 09:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Kimchi.sg 10:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• What's this? A very special high school. It has a principal. It is part of a school district. It has athletic teams. It even has students! Delete (Liberatore, 2006). 12:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

.... and as such has a major influence on those students' lives. Keep as per standard approach to schools. If you ain't interested, don't read the article. Markb 12:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was interested until I read the article. GassyGuy 16:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep or else merge — Yes there's no commonly accepted criteria for H.S. notability, but this page survives my personal criteria. Thanks. :-) — RJH (talk)
  • The useful content has been merged with the Warren Woods Public Schools page. — RJH (talk) 18:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Parents have an influence on childrens lives, but being a parent doesn't make you notable. Just another unnotable high school. -- GWO
• Merge to district article. --Liface 15:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per every other high school article being kept. You aint telling me you're gonna waste your time and ours by trying to delete every school thats ever been "kept" are you!? If I need more reason, its a high school and if we have to have articles about every damn pokemon that (n)ever existed, then a school is a no brainer! Jcuk 18:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you believe that the Pokemon coverage should be amended (and I'm sure you're not alone) then perhaps it'd be more productive to attempt to change the way those rulings are administered than to pick a new topic to fill with unnecessary entries. GassyGuy 19:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• keep please this secondary school is important we should document it Yuckfoo 19:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, just another school like any other. The existence, nature, history, and development of schools are all very important topics that deserve extensive discussion. Individual schools that do not stand out from the crowd in any way are not important; their existence is a random fact, not a part of human knowledge. We have articles on cherry trees in general, but not on the rather fine example outside my window, even though its existence is easy to verify; we have articles on prominent people, but not on me, even though I can find plenty of independent sources that discuss me; we have articles on the telephone, but we do not include lists of phone numbers.
  Summary: schools in general == knowledge, specific schools == not knowledge except in exceptional cases, this school == not exceptional == not knowledge. — Haeleth Talk 19:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Delete -- disclaimer #1) ok, I grew up going to school near WWTHS and the Titans are not even notable in the immediate area, let alone on WP. disclaimer #2) My POV is that school articles can all go, unless they have notable alumni or an event. -- MrDolomite | Talk 19:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep per my notion that all secondary schools carry inherent notability hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 20:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and improve. High schools are notable. --BaronLarf 22:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep High Schools and Colleges have an intrinsic notability, this article must be kept. -- Librarianofages 22:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and allow for organic growth per Jimbo Wales. [1] Bahn Mi 22:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Secondary schools are important I don't care what the out come of WP:SCHOOL was. --Pboyd04 23:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The secondary school notability debate needs to end. To recap key points, secondary schools often have many more students than a small college or university, often have famous alumni, and are the location of many important events in the lives of thousands of young adults. Intrinsically notable. AdamBiswanger1 23:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then show some notable facts about this school. Delete--JD79 00:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and expand to match the many other school articles. Cloachland 23:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Schools are important. Ramseystreet 00:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Secondary level educational institutions and above are inherently notable. Yamaguchi先生 00:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, per precedent. My opinion is that all public schools are notable. hateless 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• delete - I believe that most schools can be notable, but content is what establishes this notablility. Very little content. Note I am here due to an email sent to me asking me to vote here. Please wieght my arguement accordingly. HighInBC 00:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. HighInBC has been active on Wikipedia for about five months with a somewhat sizable edit history. —nom. —C.Fred (talk) 00:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete nn. school. Carlossuarez46 01:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Easy Delete, article provides no discernable notability amongst ~27,468 high schools in the United States. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 01:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE. This school is not discernably notable, no real encyclopedia would ever accept this trash. GameSet 01:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. All enduring institutions are verifiable and should be documented in any encyclopedia whose purpose is to comprise the sum of all knowledge. --Centauri 01:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• If the purpose is to comprise the sum of all knowledge, then I don't think any article would be deleted that contained facts, including the ones about nn people, nn bands... 'cause, like, you can verify their existence. And yet we do delete those articles, because the sum of all knowledge is not quite what we're collecting. GassyGuy 01:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as there is no evidence of noteworthiness in the article, and per WP:NOT Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. At the worst, Merge to Warren Woods Public Schools, but there is little new content here - mostly a disagreement as to enrolment numbers. GRBerry
• Keep all real places.  ALKIVAR™ 12:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Question: what does "trite witicisms" [2] mean? Is it meant to be an insult? (Liberatore, 2006). 19:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • It means that these school debates are inevitably filled with droll sarcasms and endlessly-repeated arguments. It's a comment about the process, not an individual. So no need to take offense. :-/ — RJH (talk) 22:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as schools are inherently notable. --Myles Long 17:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep over-riding precedent and consensus is established over the last 2 years to keep high school articles on wikipedia. Notability is not and never has been a valid deletion criterion for schools.--Nicodemus75 02:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.