Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vilmos Tátrai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus to Keep (non-admin closure) Britishfinance (talk) 01:43, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vilmos Tátrai

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No reliable sources and not notable and fails (WP:NMUSIC). Interstellarity (talk) 14:03, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:14, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:14, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore (talk) 18:18, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He was concertmaster of the Hungarian National Philharmonic for more than thirty years. The hu.wiki article lists the prizes and distinctions he earned during his long musical career. I did a google book search and found that there appears to be another person of the same name in an unrelated field, but if you search for ‘Vilmos Tátrai violin’ you will find plenty of snippet view refs. Mccapra (talk) 16:49, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have added multiple references to the article and expanded it a bit. He was a very eminent violinist and the concertmaster of a major symphony orchestra. He has an extensive discography, and an entry in The Oxford Dictionary of Music. On the centenary of his birth (2012) a month-long exhibition on his life and work took place at the Müpa Budapest. The review in Heti Válasz of his posthumously published autobiography (2001), describes him as "one of the greatest Hungarian violinists of all time." Voceditenore (talk) 17:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update. I've also added a reference for him having been awarded the Kossuth Prize by the Hungarian government in 1958. Voceditenore (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Thank you, Voce. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Voceditenore – nice work, VdT! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all; thanks Voceditenore for your work. Also, one thing I would like to understand is why this article was nominated for deletion just barely 2 hours after it was created. This really isn’t what Wikipedia should be about. Zingarese talk · contribs 17:58, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zingarese, I agree about the complete inappropriateness of nominating an article for deletion after two hours, especially when the subject already has an article on multiple Wikipedias. Admittedly, it's difficult to research, especially using those "Find sources" links at the top of the AfD—a very blunt instrument. For one thing, most of the best sources to establish notability, e.g. biographical dictionaries, will be first name last. The nominator should have searched for "Tátrai Vilmos" not just "Vilmos Tátrai". Plus, the subject is Hungarian in which people are normally referred to with their last name first. Adding "site:.hu" to the Google search would have helped too. I only came across the article by accident. I wonder how many other encyclopedic subjects have met a similar fate, or worse, have actually been deleted because nominators, !voters, and indeed the articles' creators, don't know how to search properly or don't care. Voceditenore (talk) 19:08, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- per everyone else above. Andrew Base (talk) 17:33, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.