Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vantage Magazine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP by virtue of 5 MERGE votes vs. the nominator's implied delete vote. mergeto tag is forthcoming. Mo0[talk] 23:27, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This afd nomination was incomplete. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 15:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Crystal Springs Uplands School. The article's about a school magazine and doesn't hold much interest to someone outside the specific school, but won't really hurt to be included with the school in question. - Bobet 15:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per Bobet. Mind you, I did notice that Google is telling me about quite a few other magazines called Vantage as well, so perhaps this title should remain open for one of them. RSA security has one [1], Darwin online has one [2], Odeo has one [3] and there's likely others. Not sure how many of the others are notable (if any) but it seems like a popular name for a magazine. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 16:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge as per Bobet. Not notable enough to claim its own article. Bjelleklang 18:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge as per Bobet. Excellent magazine.
• Transfer. For those who don't know Vantage, it's hard to understand exactly why it's important for this to be independent. Putting it on the school's wikipedia entry means that the student magazine (independent -- and sometimes critical -- of administrators) is significantly undermined in the sense of truly representing the student viewpoint. Why it is being reviewed for vandalism I don't know. However, it would make sense to transfer the page to something like "Vantage Student Magazine" or "CSUS Vantage Magazine" because of the other Vantage's noted prior. In response to Bjelleklang, this magazine truly is quite notable. We have interviewed major corporate and technology figures (Macromedia Chairman, Apple's Executive Vice President for Design, etc.), and are planning to interview a major political figure. It is a 28 page glossy publication, with a supplementing website, etc. And we are working to supplement the page (it was actually written by a student, not the Editorial Board). Thus, it is worthy of its own page. Taylor F, Editor-in-Chief.

I'm not so sure I agree. Interviewing some major figures does not automatically make you notable, and should IMO not be reason for inclusion. The magazine could be included on the entry of the school, which states that it is independent of the school administration, and that it has no limitations in regard of criticism towards the administration. I don't think that the magazine is notable enough to pass WP:WEB, and it has no Alexa ratings, so my opinion is that it is not notable enough to have it's own article. Coulde be mentioned on a disambiguation page of course, but should be included in the article about Crystal Springs Uplands School Bjelleklang - talk 01:27, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak merge as per Bobet. I would also suggest making it a subpage of the school article, if appropriate. Algebra 03:13, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.