Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Papa Roach Live Album

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was relist as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Time for Annihilation because the presence or absence of an actual album name is important in determining its notability (see WP:HAMMER). King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled Papa Roach Live Album

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WP:CRYSTAL, mostly first-party sources. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; it's bizarre these days that there are no reliable third-party sources for an album supposedly being released within the next six weeks by a notable band. At best, userfy until such sources are available. Rodhull andemu 00:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response That's the consequence of album leaks—hold off on information until the last possible minute and then promote the album. It makes sense, but it's a bit incongruous with the whole internet thing. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Astonishing. Whereas I have become used in recent years to teasers being posted on teh Interwebs, e.g. The Blair Witch Project, this one takes me back to 1968 and The Beatles "White Album" when there was very little information beforehand, and I remember cycling in the middle of the night down to the local record store just to see the sleeve in the window. I remember paying my 39 shillings and 11 pence (£2.00) the following day on school lunch break to buy it, and wasn't disappointed. Some things never change, they just get recycled, perhaps. Rodhull andemu 00:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete direct violation of WP:CRYSTAL and i think its HAMMER TIME STAT- Verse 00:58, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG. Nouse4aname (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above GregJackP (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Is this a deletion discussion for Untitled Papa Roach Live Album (which is the title of the discussion, but is a redirect without an AfD tag on it), or Time for Annihilation, the target of the redirect, which does have an AfD tag on it? Is theskunkno5.tumblr.com, the only source for the title, a notable and reliable source, and likewise independent of the subject? Does this run afoul of Ten Pound Hammer's Law, at least for now, or have other sources supported the proposed title? Time for Annihilation, which lists a number of refs, doesn't give a single ref that appears to be both independent and notable (lot of YouTube videos there). But I'm abstaining for now, as I'm not even sure which article we are !voting on here. Heather (talk) 16:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment/Question - in relation to the questions by Heather above, history has progressed to the point where this originally untitled album now has a title, and the original article has been moved or redirected to Time for Annihilation. Should there be a new AfD for that article, or is it legitimate to continue this original AfD? Looking at the edit histories of both articles, I can't quite figure out if this was a move, a redirect, or a big copy/paste operation. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.