Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Truck-driving country
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Country music. Mgm|(talk) 10:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Dictionary definition. Very few sources besides Allmusic recognize it as a true genre, and with no sources, this article has absolutely no chance of expansion besides delving into original research (yes, Dave Dudley and Red Sovine had big hits with truck songs, but does that actually make it a genre?). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep
Comment/Weak keepI really could lean either way on this one.There are plenty of music-related sites that have a "truck driving country music" section: [1], [2]. According to this Amazon.com editorial (reliable?), a singer named Dave Dudley is the "father of truck driving country music". This site describes how "truck driving country" was popularized in the 70s. Here is a compilation of "truck driving country favorites". MP3.com confirms Dave Dudley as the father of truck-driving country music, and mentions Dick Curless and Red Simpson as important artist within this sub-genre. The Amazon editorial review of this CD mentions "truck driving country" as well. So this exists, but I guess the real question is, is this a notable genre or not? — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Aitias // discussion 00:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article title itself is misleading ("truck-driving country"? that'll be a road, then"). From the article it appears to mean "the kind of country music which may mention truck drivers" though with no citations. So can we expect articles on "egg-frying baroque" (chefs who like listening to Albinoni) or "surgical dance"? This is, without any citations, OR and as such has no place here. Bacon Rock, mind... Tonywalton Talk 01:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I've moved the article to truck driving country music and added citations showing that this is an established genre of country music. Does that help with your misgivings? — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep following LinguistAtLarge's excellent revisions. I'd still like a Bacon Rock article, though... Tonywalton Talk 00:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I've moved the article to truck driving country music and added citations showing that this is an established genre of country music. Does that help with your misgivings? — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Country music. It's a subsection of that, nothing more really. Bacon Rock sounds good though... --Ged UK (talk) 10:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - There are quite a few other country genres. I wouldn't want to see all of them merged with Country music. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment No, neither would I, though some on that list already are. I suppose that most of the other ones are more notable; they have more written about them that more clearly explains their importance to the development of the genre. I'm not convinced that this one is that notable. That's why I'm suggesting merging rather than deleting. If and when more is written about the genre (rather than just name-checked as somewhere to pigeon hole acts into) then it could be moved back out into its own article if necessary. --GedUK 22:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Very logical argument. I agree that it hinges on how notable this sub-genre is on its own. If it's lacking notability, it should be merged. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 00:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment No, neither would I, though some on that list already are. I suppose that most of the other ones are more notable; they have more written about them that more clearly explains their importance to the development of the genre. I'm not convinced that this one is that notable. That's why I'm suggesting merging rather than deleting. If and when more is written about the genre (rather than just name-checked as somewhere to pigeon hole acts into) then it could be moved back out into its own article if necessary. --GedUK 22:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - There are quite a few other country genres. I wouldn't want to see all of them merged with Country music. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 00:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment added above after struck-out delete viewpoint. Tonywalton Talk 00:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep given sources and the fact that a reliable source such as Allmusic lists it as a genre. Well done to Linguist-at-Large. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- merge to larger gengre as a sub-genre for nowTroyster87 (talk) 01:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Country music. It's a sub-genre that's borderline notable. JamesBurns (talk) 02:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.