Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Treens

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Dan Dare. The Mekon was not nominated here and should have its own AfD discussion. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Treens

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My WP:BEFORE is not seeing much here, but there is a single academic citation (a passing mention). Just in case I am missing something, I am going with AfD here instead of the PROD, but my overall thinking is right now that we can merge the single referenced sentence to Dan Dare and redirect the ret of this, well, WP:FANCRUFT, there. (If anyone tries to rescue this, good luck, and The Mekon is no better). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and United Kingdom. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For The Mekon there is at least https://books.google.com/books?id=lvaKDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA179. TompaDompa (talk) 08:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Treens (Dan Dare) and redirect to Dan Dare. Meanwhile, treens should be an R from plural to treen, the primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:00, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Treens (Dan Dare) and redirect to The Mekon. Page is fancruft, and the Treens themselves are generic laser-fodder. They're only really notable as the Mekon's minions or for getting massacred by Dan and chums. The Mekon page is a mess but considering the character's profile in the UK at least has more chance of becoming robust, though it's been far too long since I've read Dan Dare for me to take the plunge on it any time soon. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 05:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move and redirect per above and also redirect the Mekon. Redirects are cheap. Dronebogus (talk) 10:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dronebogus I've actually taken a stab at improving the Mekon, so you may want to check that article and reconsider that part of your comment above, perhaps? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! The Mekon is still very much go-to in the British media as a nickname for anyone bald, intelligent and evil, which is impressive when he's barely been in any new material for best part of thirty years and it's probably twice that since he was in anything anyone read... I wonder if any of the fictional stuff from the Treens article could be patched across? It's not cited, not even primary, but from my very limited recollection seems accurate. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 18:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BoomboxTestarossa Just a sidenote that there is one more page in the cited source that could be used to expand The Mekon article, but I was unable to access it. There is a tiny chance there is stuff about Treens there. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect (both) to Dan Dare. I don't think unsourced material should be merged; if someone wishes they can write referenced sections for these subjects in the target article. // Timothy :: talk 18:38, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But the Mekon page as it stands is sourced impressively, just lacking in fictional information which can be patched in by an expert at a later date if the suggestion to port the material from the Treens page is verboten. Sources for that side of things definitely exist, it's just waiting for someone to summarise a couple of thousand pages of Dan Dare and the coverage in comics history books (for example, some of the sources used in the impressive Eagle article). I mean there's certainly a billion other comics articles that don't feature any national daily newspapers using them as cultural shorthand. Be mental to not have a page on the Mekon but to have one on crap like Gideon (comics). BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move and redirect per Zxcvbnm. This article doesn't have enough sources to support it as a separate article. And even after a redirect, it's not the primary topic for treen. Shooterwalker (talk) 03:49, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.