Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Berg
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Tony Berg was added to Eureka, California as a notable person by an IP editor who said he was a fighter, loan shark & bouncer. I cannot find a notable Tony Berg in Eureka, California who is a fighter, loan shark or bouncer. Following the link to the Tony Berg page that the anonymous editor linked to his/her edit, I found nothing of notability and was unable to verify the information on the page. Since this is an entry on a living person for whom I cannot find local or regional notability, I marked the page for deleting following the 3 step instructions on WP:AFD.Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:39, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: As someone who watchlists articles on several small cities, I can tell you that people add themselves or their friends to "Notable residents" sections all the time. It's entirely possible that the person added to the Eureka, California article coincidentally had the same name as the person that this Wikipedia article is about.
I see no valid rationale for deletion of the article Tony Berg presented here.—KuyaBriBriTalk 20:53, 2 June 2011 (UTC) retracted statement 14:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply] - I have retracted part of my comment above in light of this discussion being reopened by JamesBWatson (talk · contribs) and the comment he left on the closing non-admin's talk page ([1]). I made the now-retracted statement because I was and still am genuinely confused as to the nominator's intentions, but did not consider the possibility that the nominator might want the article on the music producer deleted. Would the nominator please clarify whether the article on Tony Berg, the music producer, is indeed the one he wants deleted? —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The way I read the nomination is this: the first two and a half sentences are just an explanation as to how the nominator came to find the article, and are not really relevant to the deletion discussion. The reasons given for deletion are "I found nothing of notability and was unable to verify the information on the page. ... this is an entry on a living person for whom I cannot find local or regional notability." Although the nomination could perhaps have been expressed more clearly, it is clear that it is indeed Tony Berg that is being suggested for deletion. Apart from anything else, that is where the nominator put the AfD notice. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete From what the article says, this is a person who was a routine session musician, and later became a producer and an A&R executive for a record company. That does not suggest a lot of notability, and the only source cited is a brief paragraph at allmusic.com, which includes such paragraphs on pretty well anyone in the music industry. My own searches have also failed to produce any evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability criteria. The article mentions relatives of Berg's who may or may not be notable, but that is irrelevant, as notability is not inherited. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. After reading the nomination rationale a third and fourth time, I came to the same conclusion James did concerning the nominator's intent. I also came to the same conclusions James did about this person's notability when doing an assessment of my own a couple of days ago. This sounds like a person who should meet notability criteria, but doesn't. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.