Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Capella of Calvin College
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Calvin College. content is there for whomever wants to merge. StarM 17:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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College choir that does not appear to pass WP:BAND. Only possible places are criterion 4, where the article does assert international touring, but I could not find reliable sources covering this as required, and criterion 9, since the article asserts placing in a music competition. However, since the competition they competed in (the Florilege Vocal de Tours Competition) was a qualifier for the notable competition referenced (the European Grand Prix for Choral Singing, it does not seem to itself be a "major music competition". gnfnrf (talk) 14:57, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep International tour = passes WP:MUSIC. I see no reason to deviate from the usual standards in this case. WilyD 15:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:MUSIC doesn't say that. Criterion 4 reads "Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country." I don't see where the tour was covered in reliable sources. If actual consensus is that the tour establishes notability, not the coverage, then the WP:MUSIC needs to be changed to reflect this. In such a case, I would withdraw the nom. gnfnrf (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have asked this question in general (and in more depth) on the talk page for WP:MUSIC, at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(music)#Criterion_4. gnfnrf (talk) 16:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I see this wording is subject to longstanding dispute. I don't usually worry about AfD or marginal musical articles, so I'm not privy to it's long details. WilyD 18:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have asked this question in general (and in more depth) on the talk page for WP:MUSIC, at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(music)#Criterion_4. gnfnrf (talk) 16:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:MUSIC doesn't say that. Criterion 4 reads "Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country." I don't see where the tour was covered in reliable sources. If actual consensus is that the tour establishes notability, not the coverage, then the WP:MUSIC needs to be changed to reflect this. In such a case, I would withdraw the nom. gnfnrf (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 20:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 03:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Calvin College whatever can be sourced. It would enhance the college page but I see no reason for a separate article, particularly since it is mostly unsourced. TerriersFan (talk) 20:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge As per TerriersFan, the article can't really stand alone, unless more sources establishing notability are produced.Theseeker4 (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.