Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Brown Derbies

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Brown Derbies

College a cappella article which does not meet the notability requirements of WP:MUSIC or the verifiability requirements of WP:RS/WP:NOR. Claims to notability are (1) performing in front of the first lady (cited to their website—would the band that performed "privately" as the Bush's wedding also deserve an article?) and being on TV once (cited to their school newspaper—which does not make the claim that they are notable outside the campus). Multiple, non-trivial secondary-sources are required to establish the notability of a group. Claims from their own website are insufficient. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 01:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Josh Parris#: 06:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep A cappella groups have some notability. This group has had serveral albums and many Google hits. A cappella groups are not radio towers. They are established musical organizations. S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 06:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say it was a radio tower. A google hit is not the same as a reliable source that can be cited or notability. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 06:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are many articles that are by far less notable than all these a cappella groups. Instead of deleting them, why don't we expand them? S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 06:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Classic fallacy. Existence of other non-notable articles doesn't justify more. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 06:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Most of the ghits are in myspace. Fails WP:RS. MER-C 06:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, low relevant ghits. SkierRMH 07:13, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
STRONG DELETE Fails WP:MUSIC? Yep. Bye bye baby bye bye (that was all she wrote)--Brian ^{(How am I doing?)} 14:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, a capella cruft. Recury 19:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I said it before and I'll say it again, it is tempting and easy for college students and alums to make wikipedia a venue for pushing the supposed "fame" of their pet organizations and causes. This is not the only article that fits that mold.--Dmz5 20:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Big top 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep They have notability with national cappella. They were on Best of College A Cappella Humor - Wasting Our Parents' Money, BOCA Vol 1., BOCA 97 & 98, and Best Of Collegiate a Cappella 2000. [1] The website also places the Brown Derbies in a list of "some of the best known collegiate ensembles." 209.162.23.188 06:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Source given is not a reliable source because it's not sufficiently independent. It's from someone selling their records; may as well be liner notes. Also, BOCA is not a good indicator of notability—see the BOCA afd. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 07:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:RS -- Whpq 17:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Dylan 17:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.