Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taurine cattle

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Cattle There is no consensus to delete the content, in fact a strong consensus that the material should be kept. Whether it should be merged (or technically re-merged) or remain on its own is one for an editorial decision but as this discussion stands, the merges are more clear on why this should not be a standalone/content fork but rather re-incorporated. Star Mississippi 02:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taurine cattle

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This article as it is currently is a duplicate/WP:POVFORK of Cattle. The cattle article currently begins Cattle (Bos taurus or Bos primigenius taurus), also known as taurine cattle, Eurasian cattle, or European cattle, are large, domesticated, cloven-hooved, herbivores. Indicating that the scope of the article is taurine cattle excusively, rather than Zebu, which we have a separate article for. If people are unhappy with the scope of the cattle article and think it should cover both taurine cattle and Zebu, and that a separate article should be dedicated to taurine cattle, then this is something that should be put to an RfC on the Cattle talkpage. In its current form, this stub is a pointless fork that is not useful to the reader. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the purposes of assessing consensus, I support merging as an alternative to deletion. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Biology-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions.Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - For 21 years (until last August) the scope of the cattle article was all domesticated cattle (not just taurine cattle). A single editor changed the scope in August without discussion. There is unanimous consensus on the Cattle talk page to change that article's scope back to all domesticated cattle. Rather than deleting the taurine cattle article, we should be moving content to it from the cattle article. Kaldari (talk) 04:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I've reverted the scope of the cattle article to cover all domesticated cattle as it did originally. Kaldari (talk) 05:19, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge No need for a separate page. Reywas92^Talk 15:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kaldari removed their comment here, but to answer it anyway, the Zebu is a separate species, but moreover this article is just a duplication of the main article. If there were something substantively different about this subtopic with enough unique content to warrant a separate page then sure, but there's no need to split this just to be redundant. Reywas92^Talk 18:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge This article 1) is not really full enough for a separate article 2) is about half about domesticated cattle 3) the cattle article needs this information to be complete. Lamona (talk) 17:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As per Kaldari. — Jts1882 | talk 10:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are several hits in GSholar using this term, some about sequenncing the genome. Seems notable enough. Oaktree b (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes of course it exists as the nominator states. The issue is that literally everything on this page is already on the main article, with the genome sequencing you mention at Cattle#Genetics and the line on ancestry from aurochs at Cattle#Domestication_and_husbandry. Per WP:NOPAGE, we do not need a WP:REDUNDANT WP:DUPLICATE article even when a subtopic would also be considered notable. The main article can cover this without a subpage that overlaps it. Even worse would be removing content from the main article forcing readers to go to another when this is part fo the main topic. Reywas92^Talk 20:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I think the main "cattle" article should cover all three cattle (taurine, zebu, and Sanga cattle), but mainly cover the taurine cattle. My reason is that the generic term "cattle" or "cows" usually refers to taurine cattle. 47.132.116.59 (talk) 22:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think the article should stand, in the same way that articles on zebu and sanga cattle would also be appropriate. The more general cattle article should focus on the modern hybrids. Jmbranum (talk) 19:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.