Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talking bird (cognition)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Talking bird (mimic). If there is any content worth salvaging to merge to Talking bird (mimic), it can be recuperated from the article history. (non-admin closure) Randykitty (talk) 14:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talking bird (cognition)

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This article can simply have its content merged with Talking bird (mimic). There is no need for a separate article. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you take a look at {https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Talking_bird_(mimic)#mimic_vs_utter_in_lead_sentence} I think you will see that Talking bird (cognition) is a WP:POVFORK. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:55, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete consensus was very clearly that a single article is sufficient. User:CYl7EPTEMA777 was asked to clean up their draft of the article before it was considered for moving to the mainspace, as it did not contain substantial independent or coherent material. However, they failed to prove that such content could be provided. Talking bird (cognition) just "parrots" Talking bird (mimic). ~ Boomur [☎] 02:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Articles about theory not deleted,but this not theory and this proved so hard that nobody could criticize (but even articles about theory not deleted),content deleted DrChrissy and likely you his accounts,this flood and already not trolling and just very terrible speciesism-- CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 02:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It also might be the case that people had no idea what you meant. Your English, as demonstrated here, is not that easy to understand. I have no idea what 'DrChrissy and likely you his accounts' for example, even means. Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

likely you DrChrissy -- CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you look on my user page you can see exactly who I am. Unless you have some proof and want to start an SPI, shut it. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The editor might have a point! I just looked at your user page and like me...you like to play X-box 360! Were we twin socks separated at birth perhaps? ;-) __DrChrissy (talk) 01:58, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – The article was created against process in violation of a clear consensus that the article was not appropriate. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

this article dont POV fork because talking bird (mimic) is species of birds, that can utter the spoken language of humans,and talking birds (cognition) is individual birds among them -- CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

and this article was in 2 times more big,just they deleted half article (see history)-- CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 00:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:49, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:49, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The title of this page Talking bird (cognition) does not make ethological sense. Cognition is the capacity of an animal to understand it's environment. This can be at an extremely low level such as using light to know which way is up and which way is down, or extremely sophisticated cognition such as empathy and theory of mind. By simply slapping "(cognition)" into the title does not in any way distinguish this from birds that mimic. Birds that mimic also have cognitive abilities because they understand that by repeating what a human says, they will get a nut. This article needs a new title if it is to survive.__DrChrissy (talk) 00:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Talking bird (mimic) and pick suitable name. - Sidelight 12 ^Talk 00:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

see talk talking bird (mimic) - CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 10:38, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

are you going to vote? - Sidelight 12 ^Talk 06:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Sidelight12: blocked editors cannot vote. Steel1943 (talk) 06:43, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

my mistake. - Sidelight 12 ^Talk 07:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for now, without prejudice for recreation at a future date. There is probably an article to be written on this particular subject. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 17:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:FRINGE. The article is a WP:POVFORK of Talking bird, selling the idea that birds actually understand English, but no WP:RS support this. -- 101.119.15.37 (talk) 02:15, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Merge. There is no reason why this subject cannot be merged into Talking bird. Steel1943 (talk) 19:35, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it's deleted, there is obstacle to retrieve and merge it. Merge and delete are different. - Sidelight 12 ^Talk 06:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I have changed my vote. Steel1943 (talk) 06:43, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.