Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TM-Sidhi program

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Transcendental Meditation. v/r - T P 02:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TM-Sidhi program

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Redirect to the main TM article as an unneeded walled garden WP:CFORK/dupliate of TM Gaijin42 (talk) 15:12, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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If one reads the article, one will find that TM and the TM-Sidhi program are different techniques. Article should be kept. --Uncreated (talk) 19:24, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If one reads the article, one finds "The TM-Sidhi program is a form of meditation introduced by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1975. It is based on, and described as a natural extension of the Transcendental Meditation technique (TM)" It is the same topic, and should be merged. Gaijin42 (talk) 03:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We had this discussion before. Saying something is a natural extension of another thing...does not make them the same thing. This article is well sourced and describes a very different technique than Transcendental Meditation. --Uncreated (talk) 03:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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comment I have notified several wikiprojects and noticeboards about this discussion to get a wider consensus. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect - though I'd note that this doesn't need an AfD to carry out. Any material moved must of course comply with WP:NPOV, rather than parroting the unverifiable (and frankly ridiculous) claims of proponents and then adding 'disclaimers' as the existing article seems prone to doing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Transcendental Meditation. We have a surprisingly large walled-garden of TM articles. "Merging" such systematically skewed content would be a folly - that effort would be better spent on improving the target article. bobrayner (talk) 23:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to TM, per Bobrayner. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect with substantial trimming per AndyTheGrump there seems to be adequate material for some addition to the TM article but with some serious redaction of unsupported claims and duplicate material. - - MrBill3 (talk) 22:46, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect to Transcendental meditation. There's clearly a lot of dubious and/or duplicative material here, and as others have alluded to, a real walled garden problem in this topic area. Merging this article would be a reasonable step in bringing this topic area into line with this project's standards. MastCell ^Talk 23:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to TM—this material is non-notable. EMP (talk) 23:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.