Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TBA Nelly Furtado

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete, and also delete other album images uploaded by the same user (see below). —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-25 06:16Z

TBA Nelly Furtado

Nominate for deletion along with

Comment from closing admin: In addition to the above listed images used only on the respective articles, I am also summarily deleting the following orphaned images (plus a few that are only used on articles for other "to be released" albums), since the creator seems to have a history of uploading fake/photoshopped album cover images. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-25 06:26Z

All of these articles are speculation about future albums of which the name isn't even known. No citations to verify speculation. (WP:CRYSTAL) Adambro 10:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, TBA (album). Adambro 10:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've let the user in question know about this AfD but they've created another article along the same lines, TBA Mariah Carey, which I've added to this debate. They have also uploaded more images without adding a license which I've also mentioned to them. Adambro 17:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TBA Nelly Furtado has been deleted, "WP:CSD#G12 (copyvio from http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/furtado%20records%20first%20spanish%20album_1017184)", but the others remain part of the AfD. Adambro 09:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, the names are not known, but the photo suggests the article is to be released, have you visited their official webpages? BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 10:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note - I am not prejudiced against a keep if these can be sourced, but several of these, if not all, appear to be copyright violations. Part Deux 11:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all of them (why there are three about the same unnamed Kelly Clarkson album is beyond me). When names, tracklistings, personnel or release dates start being mentioned reliably (and not all necessarily at once) they'll be appropriate inclusions. Not before, and particularly not when some of them appear to be pure guesswork - some articles are nothing but "it would be logical for X to happen", while others appear to be founded on the fact that such-and-such a song has been performed somewhere. Additionally, as Part Deux points out, there's more than a whiff of a cut-and-paste copyvio about some of these. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Where be the sources? Where be the references? Where be the Wikipedia:Attribution showing that the information in this article is correct, and that these albums are forthcoming? Delete all as not meeting the Wikipedia:Attribution core policy and the "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball" section of the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not official policy, unless someone with an interest in these articles can provide citations supporting the imminent arrival of all these unnamed albums. Re-create when more verifiable, sourceable, factchecked information is made available. -- saberwyn 11:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional. If kept, someone needs to tactical nuclear ewok merge TBA (album), TBA Kelly Clarkson(album), and TBA Kelly Clarkson - these are identical! -- saberwyn 11:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect, articles are a mix of original research, copy/paste from other articles and non-informative (no album names, no reliable release dates etc...). Also the names of the articles ("TBA") make clear that we are dealing with not much verifiable information here. Recreate when more information is available. Either delete or redirect to artist article, so the information is still available when a real article is warranted. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 11:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, very unlikely search for a redirect, crystalballery at this point. Recreate 'em when they can be sourced (and named). Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me Please review me!} 11:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all All the information is unverifiable original research and speculation. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Might even be copyvios. It is preferable to start the articles when there is information about these albums. - Anas ^Talk? 11:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. These are unlikely search terms. An album needs a name at the very least until it can have its own article. If anything verifiable can be said before that, it belongs in the artist's article. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as crystal balling and unlikely search items. The fact these speculative releases don't even have titles yet should be a clue, really. 23skidoo 12:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete redirect to artists pages. even though some albums are known to be coming out (such as Kelly Clarkson's), no date, tracklist, or title are confirmed yet, it can all wait until the official release statements are out and there's something to make an article with. Alankc 12:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have thought they need to be redirects. Adambro 13:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They seem like unusual search terms, which would tend to militate against a redirect. I'm also skeptical of the argument that "they're known to be coming out", given that it would be highly unusual if a popular recording act wasn't at some point in planning an album. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

when they simply delete, instead of redirect.. someone always just re-creates it, and we go through this all over again, or redirect tot he AFD age anyway.. so save some time and headaches and redirect to begin with either to the AFD discussion or the artist page itself. Alankc 23:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point. I never stand in the way of redirects. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment only - if kept or if recreated when sources are available, they should be renamed in the format X's nth studio album — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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