Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swami vivekananda senior secondary school raipur

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The result was delete. Shimeru (talk) 00:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Swami vivekananda senior secondary school raipur

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This is a personal essay. Currently, we don't have a CSD reason for deleting these, so I'm putting through AFD. Sorry to waste everyone's time. — Timneu22 · talk 12:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unsalvageable essay.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 14:06, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How is this unsalvagable? It's a (very poor) article about a secondary school in India. Has anyone tried looking for sources and cutting out the opinion? I've just cut it down to the bare bones. Fences&Windows 14:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Fences&Windows 14:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. -- Fences&Windows 14:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Salvagable in principle (which is why I removed the IAR speedy deletion notice), but it will take better Google foo than I possess to verify even that this school exists. I can find that a Laxminarayan Induriya was state president for Raipur,[1] and there's a school by a similar name in Raipur founded in 1993,[2] but I can't find anything concrete written in English. Searches in other languages might yield better results. Delete unless someone can work magic on it. Fences&Windows 15:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: the current state of the article seems stubbable, however I had no way of figuring this out based on the previous content. If nothing else, the article needs to be renamed to the way it is written now. — Timneu22 · talk 18:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comment - In the current state, it still lacks sources for notability, or at the very least, if deemed "automatically notable" as a school (can't remember if it applies to high school), for verifiability. The Rahul Singh link goes to a disambig page that does not include the secretary who is probably not notable and thus will likely never have an article. It would still be wise to delete the history if kept.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 20:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - "I had no way of figuring this out based on the previous content." But, but... I didn't edit the article using magical powers, I just read it and cut out all the opinion and waffle. Fences&Windows 18:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Further comment: upon looking it up, there is no formal notability guideline saying high schools are automatically notable (an attempt to make a guideline for schools failed). Thus we fall back to WP:GNG and my original delete stands.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Whether all high schools are inherently notable has never been agreed, though a large number of editors think they are. However, it is undisputed that we need verifiability, and at present we don't have it. There is a Swami Vivekananda Senior Secondary School in Yamunanagar and one in Bhilai. There are also other educational institutions with similar names, such as Swami Vivekanand Institute Of Technology in Udhana and Swami Vivekananda English Medium School in Kumbakonam, but I can find no confirmation for the existence of a school named anything like this in in Raipur. There may be one, but it seems to be unverifiable. JamesBWatson (talk) 01:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a convention that any high school taken to AfD will survive it. High schools almost always have many sources writing about them, and looking hard enough usually finds them. This school is the exception to this rule as it isn't verifiable. I stand by declining speedy deletion (as it gives a chance to actually search for sources), but in this case we can't have an article on this school. Fences&Windows 18:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Wikipedia:Verifiability. After doing several searches on Google, Google News Archive, and Google Books, I have been unable to verify the existence of this secondary school. Although high schools are considered notable, one that cannot be verified should be deleted. No prejudice to recreation if/when reliable sources surface that demonstrate the school exists. Cunard (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete without prejudice, per Cunard. We've had at least one AfD on an Indian school where we couldn't find any verification until we figured out that the school's common name was something quite different in English than the name used by the creator of the article. Perhaps that's what's going on here. However, like everyone else I was also unable to verify the existence of this school.--Arxiloxos (talk) 18:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Cunard. If sources and citations can be given, it's a different story. tedder (talk) 17:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The title doesn't even make sense Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 21:06, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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