Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stormpilot

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stormpilot

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Article about a shipping pair which at present exists only in slash fanfic. While some reliable sources have been added here which speculate about this maybe turning into a thing in the real movies, none of them confirm that and none of them use this title as a "name" for it — the sources for the name are parked entirely on Tumblr blogs, making it an improperly sourced neologism. This might just be WP:TOOSOON to start an article about something that might eventually qualify for a Wikipedia article — but as of right now, a neologistic name for something that still exists only in non-notable fanfic is not appropriate for inclusion yet. (And even if it does eventually happen in the real movies, it's still unlikely to warrant a separate article as a separate thing from the articles about the characters involved in it — I can find no evidence of any case where we have "biographical" articles about two individual characters in a movie franchise, and a whole separate third article about those same two characters' relationship with each other as a separate topic from their biographies. Even the most obvious real world equivalent I can think of off the top of my head, Brangelina, exists only as a redirect to supercouple rather than as a standalone article about Brangelina's Brangelinaness.) Delete. Bearcat (talk) 00:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Massive speculation and PoV - minimal actual content - Arjayay (talk) 11:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:46, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Probably too soon, but there are some sources available. It'd be constructive to give this a chance - for example, with some careful work, this could be useful to merge into Star Wars: The Force Awakens - fanwork is part of the reception of a movie. Dreamyshade (talk) 08:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's also an existing example of this kind of article: Kirk/Spock. That's the original and most famous slash pairing in fan fiction; it's an article about fanwork about a non-canon relationship between those characters. Dreamyshade (talk) 09:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'll also point out that, regardless of the legitimacy of the topic itself, the 'ship name' for this pairing is still very much in flux, with 'Finnpoe' & 'Poefinn' also used in equal measure.

Delete - This article stems from a nickname relating to the desire (I can't even use the word "Speculate") of a romance between two characters in the future Star Wars film releases. It doesn't seem to even amount to WP:CRYSTAL yet. Only a few of the sources listed in the article even mention the word "Stormpilot" at all, while the rest simply mention a (maybe) trending hashtag for social media. If anything, I think this is WP:TOOSOON. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:57, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I renamed the article to Finn/Poe and reframed the lead sentence, since I agree that "Stormpilot" doesn't seem to be the most popular name. The sources are mostly about the fan activity related to the Finn/Poe concept, which is a legitimate topic in itself (separate from speculation about future movies). Dreamyshade (talk) 04:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep The list of refs is impressive, but I am missing inline citations. Not my kettle of fish, but I accept it is of interest to some. Slap the {copyedit} tag on it and it should be good after some revisions. Zezen (talk) 12:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as tending towards WP:FANCRUFT. Kirk/Spock warrants an article as the Slash originator, and is discussed in that context, but at most this article should be merged (briefly) into a section on Star Wars Shipping, a Non-canon Star Wars article (which is an article that'd definitely have enough content and sources given the permissiveness re films), or maybe as one sentence in a fan-reaction subsection for TFA. There's a lot of fan ships and slashfiction in popular genre fiction, and the myriad pairings don't warrant standalone articles, even if covered by news -- for instance there's a lot of reliable sources for the existance of Drarry, Hannigram, and Stucky... ^~~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~~ 04:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Placement of fanwork in general is an interesting question - these things are significant parts of popular culture and belong somewhere, even if not as their own article. Looks like Poe Dameron#Reception has a couple sentences on the topic already, and it'd make sense to add one to Finn (Star Wars) too. Dreamyshade (talk) 06:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.