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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) LlamaAl (talk) 00:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Slavic vocabulary
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This seems redundant to the Wiktionary page. The Wiktionary page is also more complete, and a dictionary is better suited to lexical data like this than an encyclopedia. CodeCat (talk) 23:47, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The plan is for this page to list cognates, not mere vocabulary items, for comparative purposes. This would involve removing Macedonian and Ukrainian, removing the IPA and adding Standard Serbo-Croatian and Chakavian, maybe Slovenian also, and adding all the necessary accent marks, accent classes, noun declensions, verb conjugations, etc.. Most of these marks are missing entirely from the Wiktionary article. Refs could be made for particular items to indicate the processes involved. I've already added capsule summaries of how the various languages are pronounced, which will be enough if people really care. You are right that Wiktionary is for people wanting to look up dictionary words, but for comparative purposes that's not nearly enough. Benwing (talk) 09:04, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- BTW I have totally redone this page to reflect how I think it should be, so it's unclear how much the above comments by CodeCat still apply. Benwing (talk) 00:31, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It does look better, but ironically it now resembles a different set of Wiktionary pages: wikt:Appendix:List of Proto-Slavic pronouns, wikt:Appendix:List of Proto-Slavic nouns and so on... CodeCat (talk) 00:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- BTW I have totally redone this page to reflect how I think it should be, so it's unclear how much the above comments by CodeCat still apply. Benwing (talk) 00:31, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- An earlier version of this article was nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swadesh list of Slavic languages in 2012; the discussion reached no consensus. A 2006 discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swadesh lists is also related, and a recent one at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swadesh list of Lezgic languages may be relevant. (There are also other past AfD discussions regarding Swadesh lists.) This type of list is most commonly transwikied to Wiktionary, though there was no consensus to do so with the Slavic Swadesh list in 2012. Also, there are comparative lists at Wiktionary; see wikt:Appendix:Swadesh lists. Wiktionary requires native orthography (thus for Slavic languages, some would have to be in Cyrillic and others in Latin), but allows the addition of IPA or Latin-alphabet transliteration. Cnilep (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is an encyclopedic concept that deserves a full article. It needs a bit of reworking to emphasize the encyclopedic elements of vocabulary while not just listing different words with their meanings and pronunciation. But what we have is good enough for now. ThemFromSpace 22:55, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.