Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shree Krishna Bhakto Meera

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It has been demonstrated by those taking part in the AfD that there is not sufficient reliable sources to enable the current article to remain at this present time. That is a situation that is likely to change in the future and when reliable sources exist, I have no issue with the article being recreated (I explicitly permit this to occur). Nick (talk) 17:39, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability not established for this television show that has not aired- sources are WP:ROUTINE coverage. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:38, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:38, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep multiple trailer released on TV ; See [1] and [2] are promos that were telecasted on Star Jalsha in April 2021 and available on YouTube; passes WP:NTV where it specifically mentioned Care must also be taken with projects that have been announced to series and started filming; 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic saw the unexpected start of the "un-renewal" concept, where a series confirmed to launch or being renewed is instead cancelled by the network or streamer for economic reasons. It also has WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS like Hindustan Times, Sangbad Pratidin and others. The delay of launch date was only due to localized COVID-19 lockdown in West Bengal^[1][2] which is partially lifted now^[3] and scheduled to broadcast from July 2021. Also fails WP:TOOSOON criteria and inappropriate to WP:DRAFTIFY. The nominator has missed WP:BEFORE. Run n Fly (talk) 11:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Those links to trailers are not WP:RS, therefore I dispute the comment that WP:BEFORE was missed. Delays to the airing date are separate to the issue that notability is not established by independent sources.

It is great to hear that the COVID-19 lockdown has partially lifted now, I hope the situation continues to improve. MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:55, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Again the nominator has got it wrong. I never said about the trailers as WP:RS. I said that the references used in the article like Hindustan Times (Bengali edition), Sangbad Pratidin, Anandabazar Patrika, Aaj Tak (Bengali edition) and others are well established WP:RS and have WP:SIGCOV. Also, the article was reviewed by Onel5969 as it passes WP:TVSERIES and WP:GNG. The shooting of the new TV shows including Shree Krishna Bhakto Meera^[4][5][6] has resumed now.^[7][8] Thank you. Run n Fly (talk) 17:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Run n Fly, actually that's not why I marked it "reviewed", it's simply marked reviewed to take it off the NPP backlog, as the decision of the AfD will decide whether it passes notability requirements. I actually have no opinion on the article, but if I was to vote I would vote to draftify. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:02, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify would simply lead to nothing as I see that the creator of the article is blocked for sockpuppetry. Run n Fly (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Drafity The subject should be move in to the draft space, as the trailer has been released. When the show will be released then only the draft should move into the article space. Bapinghosh (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bapinghosh, The creator of the article is blocked. The show is scheduled to be start later this month. Thus, drafity is a very weak option now. There are numerous TV shows and films that are scheduled to release this year per WP:NFF says Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun. Also, it passes WP:TVSERIES with WP:SIGCOV. Run n Fly (talk) 13:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment: I think WP:SIGCOV, WP:NTV can override/take precedence over WP:DRAFTIFY here. Run n Fly (talk) 13:10, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Run n Fly: okey. Still draftify. After that when the show will air me or you or another editor will move it to the article space. As simple as that. Bapinghosh (talk) 20:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        • Bapinghosh, But instead of WP:DRAFTIFY we can give the article a chance for a month to stay. Definitely the dates will be announced soon as the shooting is in full swing and as they did with Dhulokona announcement^[1]. I am not convinced to WP:DRAFTIFY only because specific date is not announced ignoring important requirements of article like WP:NTV and WP:SIGCOV being clearly fulfilled. Run n Fly (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Bapinghosh: Also WP:DRAFTIFY says clearly It is not intended as a backdoor route to deletion. It was already WP:DRAFTIFY once earlier once. Thus, repeated moving to and fro between main-space and draft-space creates confusion among WP:NPP patrollers. Many American TV shows whose dates are not announced have article in main-space. See List of 2021 American television debuts so same should be applicable for Indian TV shows as it satisfies WP:NTV. Thus, I find your point not convincing.Run n Fly (talk) 20:39, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
            •  Note: The schedule date before the lockdown was 24 May 2021 9:30 PM.^[2] So its anticipated to start by end of this month. Also, we can find more new news coverage of the show and its characters.^[3][4][5][6] Run n Fly (talk) 20:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. MrsSnoozyTurtle 05:07, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• But WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS mentions Wikipedia recognizes that it suffers from systemic bias. Sometimes the nomination of one of a series of articles that have relatively equal merit would further the bias. I see this happening here. Also, see WP:BIAS that clearly says As a result of this systemic bias, some cultures, topics and perspectives tend to be underrepresented on Wikipedia applicable here Run n Fly (talk) 05:20, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• WP:NCTest takes precedence over WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for me. Run n Fly (talk) 05:52, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep agree with Run n Fly 2402:3A80:6D1:DFD2:FACA:E45A:38E:2E64 (talk) 02:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I went through most of the sources and I'm not finding much reliable here.
  • Times of India appears to be a press release/interview from text and by-line
  • Ichorepaka.in - Also appears to be press release, no by-line, they attempt to write it like a journalistic article but it looks more like an attempt to namedrop as many people as possible -- also seems remarkably similar to this article from bongtrend, like it's a rehashed press release
  • Aajtak - Obvs an interview
  • Times of India 2 - Clearly a press release, no by-line and speaks in press release tone
  • BanglaHunt - Has a by-line, but the article starts with "BanglaHunt Desk:" which usually indicates a press release and is remarkably non-critical in it's tone
  • Anandabazar.com cites the subject's own words and his social media page, and not much else, so WP:PRIMARY
  • Times of India 3 - Clearly an interview

So essentially we're looking at a whole bunch of WP:PRIMARY content here in my view. Thus, it's not yet notable in my view. It's WP:TOOSOON. Wait for real reviews of the actual show, not speculation and clear attempts at promotion and hype by the studio. Waggie (talk) 03:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The show will be telecasted from 26 July 2021 at 9:00 PM announced by Star Jalsha

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.