Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sai University, Chennai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus but leaning keep ever since Muhandes's overhaul. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sai University, Chennai

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Disputed draftification. Suffers from WP:CIRCULAR, fails WP:NCORP and is a private university. I'd have sent it back to draft, but that would have failed 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and India. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Drafting was the kinder call but if that's not acceptable, then this article isn't acceptable in mainspace. An article sourced in the main to Wikipedia? Nope. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexandermcnabb I'm afraid unilateral Draftification was unavailable to me. See WP:DRAFTOBJECT. You are entitled to suggest that it be draftified as an outcome of this AfD if you choose. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:55, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I meant no criticism, but that the author should have taken the option when presented to them. Right now I'm good with delete. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:02, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexandermcnabb I had no thought to imply that you were offering a criticism. It did not feel as if you were. Forgive my possible ambiguity in my reply above, please. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails GNG. I tried to gently educate the user but it didn't work. If they won't read the rules or listen to advice there's nothing we can do about it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:00, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no indication of notability per WP:GNG / WP:ORGCRIT, and although a search finds one or two hits, it's not enough; likely WP:TOOSOON given how recently this was founded. (If only some editors weren't in such a hurry to create articles prematurely!) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tamil Nadu-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:00, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no sources found, confirmation of people that teach there, but nothing about the school. Oaktree b (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The AfD banner was removed from the article and has been reinstated 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:15, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it that any university in the West that has been established by an Act of Parliament or equivalent is accepted without question as a subject for a Wikipedia article but universities in India or Africa are not? One of the mysteries of Wikipedia. I also note that what makes a university subject to WP:NCORP is being run for profit, rather than just being private which applies to all of the American Ivy League universities. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Phil Bridger: To answer your question in short, the issue is in-depth coverage. But why ask rhetorical questions instead of a) !voting and b) spending the time to find more sources and improve the article? Muhandes (talk) 16:07, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:24, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:CIRCULAR is not a reason for deletion, unless you are proposing WP:TNT, which you are not. As for notability, I think there are, or should be, enough sources to show minimal notability for a newborn university. Muhandes (talk) 14:42, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It took me two minutes to correct all circular references and another 10 minutes to locate quite a number of in-depth articles about the university and its inception. These are not even all the sources I found, just what I could use to support easy facts. I'm sure there is even more in local newspapers but I don't have the time (or inclination) to spend on this. --Muhandes (talk) 16:03, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To evaluate @Muhandes:' work on the article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 15:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep secondary Reliable sources are trustable WP:RSP, in Wikipedia guide line this news sources is pass WP:THEHINDU. D 🐕 B 🦇K🐞 (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC) -strike sock - Beccaynr (talk) 18:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:30, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Universities established by state legislation are invariably notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:32, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The work done by Muhandes to improve sourcing to my mind easily brings it over the threshold for WP:ORGCRIT.OsFish (talk) 09:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.