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The result was speedy delete and salt. Three differently titled variants of this hoax article have now been deleted and salted. The matter is also now now at SPI, as suspected sock accounts of indef banned User:RealMadridCF2012. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:43, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sadzid Husić

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Article is a hoax - no evidence exists that a person by this name has done the things that are listed in the article. Claims all based on self-published sources. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:08, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note - I have examined every single source in the article. The 3 that claim to be from Austrian newspapers are mock ups or hoaxes. In particular, the one that claims that the subject of this article is "Working on the soundtrack to Transformers 5" is based on the article here - http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/04/09/major-lazer-joins-soundtrack-transformers-5-313156 - with the name changed. Blatant hoax. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

-These are not self-publishing newspapers that are relevant newspapers from Austria and this article is not a hoax or vandalism but corresponds to the guidelines of Wikipedia.--Enoscore (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, should be pointed out that this is not the first time it has been claimed that an individual of this name has done things that he quite obviously has not. 216.106.129.70 (talk) 19:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note -I have also find the same thing on the same site [1] and if you say "Self-Publishing newspapers" that is not right. Salzburg24.at is a part of Salzburger Nachrichten and they are relevant I have the article translated by a friend and in the article stands the Sadzid Husic possibly as a composer with Steve Jablonsky would work. --Enoscore (talk) 19:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The link you have posted is a forum post, not a reliable source and therefore irrelevant here. As irrelevant as this: https://twitter.com/jablonsky_steve/status/775038767098847232?p=v Exemplo347 (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You have just posted the link from the same forum and as I said it was at Salzburg24.at and I quote "He could become the CO composer of Steve Jablonsky" that does not mean he is the CO composer of Steve Jablonsky for Transformers 5 is. In addition, the media spread many rumors when it comes to big films that we should all here know.--Enoscore (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can confirm this myself I speak German but as far as I can see I have nowhere written in my article he would be a "film composer" and have there also no films listed, but only trailer credits.--Zylo-Cen (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have not seen any evidence from a RELIABLE SOURCE that backs up any claim in the article. Please post something that is A) Not from a forum post, B) Not from Youtube and C) An actual newspaper article. I've looked myself, and all I've been able to find is a long list of claims that this person is a hoax. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Here also something from the newspaper of Vienna.at found where he congratulates the "Mozarteum Orchestra Salzburg" for a birthday. And when I look at the article by Zack Hemsey I find there synonymous YouTube videos, blogs but no relevant newspaper as a source. But here, Zack Hemsey is not referred to as "Hoax" although all of the source claims are YouTube or his blog.--Zylo-Cen (talk) 20:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So if you yourself can see that the subject of this article has no evidence to back up any of his claims, why did you create this article in the first place? Exemplo347 (talk) 20:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As I see, I have to turn to Wikipedia support since obviously all sources here are not relevant to them personally although Vienna.at, Vol.at and Salzburg24.at have written about this person is referred to my article here as "Hoax". This is the same as I would say "Times of India" is not relevant as a source and since my sources are not "self-publishing newspapers", my article does not violate the guidelines and therefore I will weden there another Wikipedia support Is obviously working against the directives. I have more sources specified than with most Wikipedia Wikipedia, which are also relevant here, although as a non-German speaking it claims its not relevant enough for a Wikipedia article. --Zylo-Cen (talk) 20:12, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Though at a first glance, the person may look to be an actual composer. Researching him even a bit makes it clear that this individual is indeed a phony, and all his claims are bogus. This is definitely the most elaborate hoax I've seen first hand. It doesn't only go back a few months, but years. At least three years, in fact. All I'd like to know is why? What does this gain anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.143.174 (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wow the same Guy with another IP ;) --Zylo-Cen (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Umm...yes, because I'm somewhere else now. You do know we can't take our IP with us, right? Anyway, the point being? 128.230.143.174 (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note -What I can see is that there are enough sources, but here are seen by some users as not relevant although these newspapers write from Austria. I am against a deletion of the article and I also applied to the Wikipedia support and the situation described obviously stood this article almost a month online without the there were problems with the sources and other. And now a person has been asking for hours of deletion, and a Wikipedia Admin falls for it purely because in the past someone has created articles with the name "Sadzid Husic" which have been marked as Hoax. Here in this article there are sufficient sources that are relevant and which correspond to the guidelines. And it is not a Hoax since I wrote with the person via Facebook about 4 hours ago it should continue here to vandalism I will report the users at the support. This is a living person working as a composer for trailer music at the label Remote Control Productions and everyone who says that person does not deny thereby a living person! --Enoscore (talk) 20:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So you confirm that it was you who was talking to me on facebook? Oh, but I thought it was the real Sadzid I was talking to! So this supposed official page is in fact you as opposed to Sadzid Husic? Then why were you impersonating him? Or are you Sadzid himself...So many questions! 128.230.143.174 (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No i have written that I have write with him on Facebook for few hours ago , you can read? --Enoscore (talk) 20:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You do you man, I'm sure this will be resolved sooner rather than later anyway. 128.230.143.174 (talk) 20:37, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously as I see here you have personal reasons for a delete of the article here on Wikipedia since I can see from your Tet above you were already in contact with Sadzid Husic so I can not exclude personal reasons. I will get in contact with Sadzid Husic via Facebook to find out what these reasons are for the deletion because only you have applied for it.--Enoscore (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are Enoscore and Zylo-Cen the same person? Let's have an honest answer please. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No I'm from France where the other comes I do not know but he says he speaks German that can be that he comes from Austria, Germany or Switzerland we are not the same person. I am only against your representation that the sources are not relevant and I will now turn on the support and report the here vandalismus is operated on cost a Wikipedia page as far as one is familiar with Wikipedia is against the rules. --Enoscore (talk) 20:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please read through the guidelines for reliable sources here WP:RELIABLE - it is not MY representation that the unreliable sources used are irrelevant. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes then read the "definition of source" by what is listed there and "Self-published sources" which is listed there. --Enoscore (talk) 20:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Trust me, I'm very familiar with these guidelines. The fact is, every assertion in the article you created is false. This article has no place on Wikipedia. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You say that the sources are not relevant and describes them as "self-publishing" which is wrong from your side and that is already a offense against the guidelines.--Enoscore (talk) 20:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And another is false i don't have created this article on Wikipedia it was (talk) --Enoscore (talk) 21:00, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note -I have contacted Sadzid Husic and I have been informed about the obvious problem here is a personal problem before the user who submitted the application for deletion for this Wikipedia article his YouTube video has been deleted because he uploaded copyright material on his channel. The video was allegedly reported by Sadzid Husic on YouTube and here the reasons for a deletion application are directed personally against the person. --Enoscore (talk) 20:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Completely true. Unfortunately for him (you?), it was obvious that the content was not owned by him. And as I said before, even a little bit of research showed me that this whole persona was an obvious hoax. And now here we are. This being personal doesn't discount the fact, that this whole persona and the claims are indeed bogus. 128.230.143.174 (talk) 21:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can I just point out that I am not the same person as the other editor who has posted here in support of deleting this article. I read the article, checked every source and then listed it as an Article for Deletion based on the fact that every claim in the article is either an outright lie or unsupported by what Wikipedia deems to be Reliable evidence. Exemplo347 (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also mean not you but the person with the IP address here the article for deletion has reported. Here is the SalzburgWiki and can give you 100% confidence that this source or sources are relevant. Here you are exactly described that it is not a "self-publishing newspaper".--Enoscore (talk) 21:06, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Look, it's really simple - the assertions in the article are false and that's that. The accuracy of Biographies of Living Persions is essential - any false information contained within should be removed. In this case, the false information is the only reason this article has been posted - without it, this article wouldn't exist. Stop arguing about semantics - this article is based on falsehoods and should be removed. Exemplo347 (talk) 21:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all my name is Sadzid Husic and yes I really exist I live and breathe also in this world a hoax I am not synonymous. If someone has the opinion here he has to delete this article he should do me an article in Wikipedia nothing at all I know with which I make my money and from which I live. I want the dispute to stop here if the article should be deleted makes it easy if it does not comply with the rules of Wikipedia or if the whole sources are not relevant. Do not waste your time with such a silly I find there are more beautiful things where you could invest the time and wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy new year greetings from Austria. By Sadzid Husic :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.153.43.10 (talk) 21:17, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sadzid. Would you care to tell me why you added yourself to a list of footballers here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NK_Bratstvo_Gračanica&diff=prev&oldid=614514466 - seems a bit strange. Exemplo347 (talk) 21:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well his name is clearly Bosnian and it would appear he also played football at some point in Bosnia. [2], [3], [4]. He's fairly young and this club is not exactly Manchester United. —МандичкаYO 😜 23:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Except for the fact Enoscore himself proved that both the supposed individuals are different. 128.230.143.174 (talk) 23:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't consider Enoscore to be a WP:RS. The first link above clearly identifies Sadzid Husić as an Austrian, not an Albanian. Husić is a Bosnian name. So either this is an incredibly elaborate hoax, that has fooled media for years, or he is legit. The Austrian/German links below are not hoax sites. I will change my vote to delete and salt if you can find anything relative to this being an elaborate hoax - has this article ever appeared on the German Wikipedia? —МандичкаYO 😜 23:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at this page, it's mentioned there that similar fake pages were created on German Wikipedia by sock puppet accounts two years ago, but deleted after they were found to be fake. 128.230.143.174 (talk) 23:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok Delete it if you mean but i will report this the Support. Thank you very much so i go away from this here peace People--Enoscore (talk) 21:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see you found it too. I don't know how they did it, but more importantly why did they do it!? 128.230.143.174 (talk) 23:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes... I do actually check before I come straight out and accuse someone of something. Exemplo347 (talk) 23:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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