Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabe Lewellyn

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:48, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence this is a notable subject. A search for better sources reveals virtually nothing of value, those included in the article aren't in depth coverage and I can find nothing better. Praxidicae (talk) 13:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete a search finds very little. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• I've actually found the opposite. two books mention Sabe Lewellyn, CoCA 2011 Annual - Page 14books.google.co.uk › books Gary Hill - 2012 The State of Art - Installation & Site-Specific #1, Volume 1. with the other citations including international art shows and international papers he seems significant enough for wpJust4kids (talk) 19:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentions aren't enough and certainly not in depth coverage. The claims aren't even supported by those sources. Praxidicae (talk) 19:26, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These aren't simply mentions the first is an art exhibition catalogue which is an important source for art historians, and the second is a quarterly journal that argues the importance of the artists work in 2014.Just4kids (talk) 21:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

here is another book that includes this artist. This exhibition catalogue discuss work shown in Berlin in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Just4kids (talk • contribs) 21:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These all sound like primary sources, rather than critics or reviewers taking note of the artist's work and writing about it. Primary sources can be used in articles, but they are not of much value in establishing notability. See WP:NARTIST. The Berlin catalog is of value for proving that the show happened. The text in it, which is his CV and artist's statement, is not useful for establishing notability as Lwwellyn wrote it himself. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 21:29, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

here is a review which is already cited as a source in the article ^[1]Just4kids (talk) 21:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, does not meet WP:ARTIST, work(s) not "been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.". Coolabahapple (talk) 09:09, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - The subject of the article does not meet notability criteria for WP:ARTIST. The sourcing is extremely weak: 1) artist's website 2) written by the artist 3) unverifiable 4) mention in a juried show catalog (I'm skeptical of juried shows because they are pay-to-play) 5) press release 6) mention in a book on many artists 7) written by the artist 8) press release 9) review of student group show (with 130 artists). Therefore does not meet WP:GNG either. Netherzone (talk) 14:35, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I tried to get thought the bibliography at http://sabelewellyn.com/cv/ Only one review is linked, but I did find an archive version of another article, https://web.archive.org/web/20150501100208/http://dmoves.com/news/sabe-lewellyn-a-modern-thoreau/ It's not a review of his work, but a description of a kickstarter campaign. I couldn't find the others. As a recent grad of the GSA's MFA program, and an emerging(?) artist, maybe he'll become notable in time, but it's too soon now. Vexations (talk) 18:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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