Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SNP Trade Union Group

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 07:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SNP Trade Union Group

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Article fails WP:RS, in fact there are no sources for this article when nominated. It also fails WP:GNG Angryskies (talk) 17:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Angryskies (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. Angryskies (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Angryskies (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Structural component of the SNP;^[1] possibly second largest membership organisation in Scotland.^[2] Easily passes the GNG.^[3]^[4]^[5] AfD is not clean up.

References

^ Mitchell, James; Bennie, Lynn; Johns, Rob. The Scottish National Party: Transition to Power. OUP Oxford. p. 40. ISBN 978-0-19-958000-2.
^ "Chris Stephens: Trade union value in SNP future". www.scotsman.com. 14 November 2014.
^ "SNP trade union group backs Tie LGBTI+ Scottish education campaign". Source. 12 October 2015.
^ "SNP trade unionists in push for party to adopt total fracking ban". HeraldScotland. 29 July 2015.
^ Belser, Eva Maria; Fang-Bär, Alexandra; Massüger, Nina; Pillai, Rekha Oleschak. States Falling Apart?: Secessionist and Autonomy Movements in Europe. Stämpfli Verlag. p. 153. ISBN 978-3-7272-5913-5.

Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 00:35, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Would appear to be notable enough, as above. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article does not cite any references to demonstrate it's notability. The article can be draftified if necessary for improvements. --RaviC (talk) 10:52, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @RaviC: It doesn't matter whether the sources demonstrating notability are cited in the article itself. See WP:ARTN. — MarkH₂₁^talk 00:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article in the The Scotsman is an opinion piece, it's not clear to me that the 5-person Source News is a reliable source, and I only see passing mentions in the books The Scottish National Party: Transition to Power and States Falling Apart?: Secessionist and Autonomy Movements in Europe; I wouldn't count those towards WP:GNG/WP:ORGCRIT. The article from The Herald is significant coverage and a reliable source that should count towards GNG/ORGCRIT. Are there others though? I could only find passing mentions elsewhere. — MarkH₂₁^talk 00:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ MarkH21: I stand corrected regarding the use of sources in the article. I'd also note your analysis seems to prove a lack of RS coverage for this group. --RaviC (talk) 17:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment More sourcing.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

References

^ Landin, Conrad (31 July 2019). "SNP union group 'does nothing to support workers'". Morning Star.
^ "SNP trade unionists in call for rent controls after 'tidal wave' of evictions". The National. 29 June 2020.
^ Savage, Michael (6 May 2015). "Workers abandon traditional allegiance and switch to SNP". The Times.
^ "In Scotland, trade unionists are already leaving Labour behind". Financial Times. 18 May 2015.

Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 01:28, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, jp×g 06:29, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per new sources (some of which I found on my own search prior to checking prior AfD comments, lol!) I'll incorporate them into the article if it's closed to keep. jp×g 04:20, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Mitchell, James; Bennie, Lynn; Johns, Rob. The Scottish National Party: Transition to Power. OUP Oxford. p. 40. ISBN 978-0-19-958000-2.

[2] "Chris Stephens: Trade union value in SNP future". www.scotsman.com. 14 November 2014.

[3] "SNP trade union group backs Tie LGBTI+ Scottish education campaign". Source. 12 October 2015.

[4] "SNP trade unionists in push for party to adopt total fracking ban". HeraldScotland. 29 July 2015.

[5] Belser, Eva Maria; Fang-Bär, Alexandra; Massüger, Nina; Pillai, Rekha Oleschak. States Falling Apart?: Secessionist and Autonomy Movements in Europe. Stämpfli Verlag. p. 153. ISBN 978-3-7272-5913-5.

[6] Landin, Conrad (31 July 2019). "SNP union group 'does nothing to support workers'". Morning Star.

[7] "SNP trade unionists in call for rent controls after 'tidal wave' of evictions". The National. 29 June 2020.

[8] Savage, Michael (6 May 2015). "Workers abandon traditional allegiance and switch to SNP". The Times.

[9] "In Scotland, trade unionists are already leaving Labour behind". Financial Times. 18 May 2015.

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