Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron Klimko

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Ron Klimko

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:01, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be a "vanity entry" for a deceased University music professor. Sources include "who's who" in a specialty magazine with a dead link and is therefore an unverifyable credential and a print advertisement for "music lessons." I did a search for sources and found a self published book with little reach or impact; https://www.amazon.com/Bassoon-performance-practices-teaching-United/dp/B0007AH8J4 The biography reads well and is interesting; but in my opinion the subject is not notable. The account that created this article (which reads almost like an obituary.) WP:MEMORIAL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/The.matt.williamson There are no supporting references that can be found. Prior to asking for a deletion discussion I tagged the article PROD. How can an unsourceable memorial article be improved? Flibbertigibbets (talk) 12:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"In my opinion, to improve the article to an acceptable standard would involve finding sources (tried) or deleting unsupported statements (blanking - not acceptable). I cannot find any sources of merit let alone quality sources. Notability could be found even without quotable sources, but this is not the case; there are no indicators of notability I perceive the article has been written as a memorial (by an account created for that sole purpose); for a subject that is not notable." additional comments. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 12:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Wisconsin. Shellwood (talk) 13:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Connection to the Double Reed might be notable, but this is nothing more than a bloated CV at this point. Might redirect to the Double Reed article. Oaktree b (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think REDIRECT would be a great idea! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:07, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 19:08, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I cut down the article of most of the puffery and cruft. He may pass WP:NPROF#8 as editor of The Double Reed. Curbon7 (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The subject is mentioned, somewhat substantively, in this review [1] of a history of American bassoon instruction; it appears that there is a substantive obit by the IDRS that is behind a paywall [2]. Our current article I think might oversell the importance of Klimko's bassoon instruction book: last I knew, the Weissenborn Practical Method for the Bassoon was still the central work used. OTOH, I do expect that Klimko's book had some impact, and will comment that reviews may be difficult to find for this work predating the Internet era. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.