Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Rabiah

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:31, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Rabiah

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PROD was removed by an anon IP who is hopping the border between vandal and COIN, Artilce does not have any coverage in media. It cannot satisfy GNG. 2Joules (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't see any major issues with notability: subject has many parts in major films; nominated for a big award; admittedly there are relatively few biographical articles about him online, but there seems to be enough to justify notability [1], [2]. I would say this individual meets WP:ENT. BubbleEngineer (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that just one article is enough to get an article on wikipedia. He has no indepth coverage. 2Joules (talk) 04:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are doing personal attack on this actor he played a role as Hakim in Face to Face film (big Australian Flim) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1saint rp (talk • contribs) 05:47, 24 May 2018 (UTC) — 1saint rp (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 10:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 10:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. His parts in Safe Harbour and Face to Face are both significant roles. That satisfies WP:ENT. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment My concern is that there is a lot of content in this article that has been added by sockpuppets and paid editors who have not disclosed their positions. I am aware that editors like Duffbeerforme have been diligently working on the article but that doesn't change the fact. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:50, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not opposed to TNT. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete Subject has coverage but very very little truly independent and reliable. Difficult to get in-depth. Perhaps WP:TOOSOON. Not sure at all that Safe Harbour (Australian TV series) meets notability guidelines, but Face to Face (2011 film) probably does, not sure that WP:ENT is met. See WP:NFILM. Aoziwe (talk) 11:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aoziwe, Safe Harbour is notable, see [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Safe Harbour is also probably notable. (Better if all those refs were in that article.) No quite comfortable yet though changing to a weak keep. But I am still open to it. (Notability is not inherited but WP:ENT#1 is an inherited notability - go figure?) Aoziwe (talk) 13:23, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Seems like a paid article to me created entirely for the purpose of promotion rather than something that should be on Wikipedia. Robert is more of a created "Celebrity". FrederickWinchester (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - but block the paid editors (as they show up). Notability has been met, as amply demonstrated, but the larger issue is with the payola that is going on, all of which has thus far been undeclared. Given that there are non-conflicted editors working to try to get this article up to speed and that the conflicted ones, as far as I am aware, have failed to disclose, the latter need blocked ASAP. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 20:17, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  That list thus far, based on contribs, is: 45.116.233.36 (talk · contribs), Cinema777 (talk · contribs), Films001 (talk · contribs), Whizbangwang (talk · contribs) (stale), GeistFright (talk · contribs) (stale), and Simohicks (talk · contribs) (stale). There is also an existing SPI at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Joeltmpayne; the named user has already been blocked. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 20:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment: in the event that this article is kept (which seems likely at this point), I have indef-semi protected the article to prevent further sockpuppetry. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:14, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  That's good, but the paid editing farm has also edited related pages, if you'll look at their contributions. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 23:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  If they're blocked, that doesn't matter. Semi-protection will prevent edits from new accounts they create. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  The ones I listed above are not blocked. I didn't list any that had already gotten blocked. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 05:38, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Of those you listed, the last three are stale and not actionable. The IP cannot edit. That leaves Films001 and Cinema777, both of which are now blocked. Any new socks won't be able to edit the article. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• comment. I still cannot decide; one the one hand, he has appeared in a lot of productions, some of them notable, but on the other hand, none of them have been major parts, or attracted that much attention except for one or two lines about roles in Face to Face and Safe Harbor. I spent a bit of time searching, and while I found quite a few mentions, it was all just name check stuff- cast lists, award nominations etc. Theres a few writing credits earlier in his career (small films, nothing really notable) that could go in. Couldnt find anything about Sunrise films and the music stuff though. There is really only the one in depth article about him, so not WP:GNG, no major award, so not WP:ANYBIO. WP:ENT the films are significant, but are his roles in them?. Curdle (talk) 02:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep has prominent roles (at least 3) in notable productions so passes WP:NACTOR, the sockpuppets problem is being addressed Atlantic306 (talk) 19:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.