Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rethroned
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. MBisanz talk 01:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Unnotable album that fails WP:N and WP:MUSIC with NO significant coverage, and article consisting solely of a tracklist. This was PRODed, deleted via PROD, then restored by the deleting admin after an IP complained about its deletion. IP then removed the PROD that remained after the restore. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 11:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per WP:MUSIC; albums released by notable bands are themselves notable. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:MUSIC does not say that. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment In all fairness, it does state that if there is only a tracklist, then content should be merged (which would make this discussion here irrelevant anyway, but hey), but that in general albums by notable bands are intrinsically notable (see WP:MUSIC under albums). Thus the discussion is not about delete, but merge. This discussion is in the wrong place. Edit: Please see WP:NALBUMS. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The very first line is "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." - so deletion is a perfectly reasonable option. There is nothing to merge. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:40, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Well, being pedantic about it, you could of course merge the track-listing with the article. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The very first line is "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." - so deletion is a perfectly reasonable option. There is nothing to merge. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:40, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment In all fairness, it does state that if there is only a tracklist, then content should be merged (which would make this discussion here irrelevant anyway, but hey), but that in general albums by notable bands are intrinsically notable (see WP:MUSIC under albums). Thus the discussion is not about delete, but merge. This discussion is in the wrong place. Edit: Please see WP:NALBUMS. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as a plausible search term to Northern Kings. Fails notability per WP:MUSIC#AlbumsKeep, it has charted, it's referenced, and has the potential to grow. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 00:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Comment if deleted, redirect to Enthronement, since several dethroned monarchs subsequently reacquired their thrones. 76.66.195.63 (talk) 06:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Unnoteable can just be the comment of somebody who does not know anything about metal music. Northern Kings is a supergroup consisting of four of the most famous metal singers of Finland (Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Teräsbetoni and Charon). Their first album (also only covers, since this is the only goal for this band) went gold in no time at all and this album will also be gold in a few weeks. After all it (Rethroned) has advertisement during TV primetime, has its own display stands in the large music stores and so on (no coverage is a extreme understatement). In its first week after release it immediately entered the album charts (and thanks to Christmas time it will sell well for a few more weeks). -- CecilK (talk) 22:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sweet, if you can provide some reliable, third-party, sources to back up that chart claim, I'm willing to change my vote to a keep. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 23:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please check the article. Before I wrote here I already added it there. I hope it counts as a reliable source (at least at de.WP it is used that way). Otherwise I will have to search it on yle.fi (where for some reasons I always have troubles finding the charts). -- 82.181.146.7 (talk) 01:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Found it: official chart-page. I also found a few reviews, but since the album has not been released outside of Finland yet, most of them are Finnish ([1]) or German ([2]). Oh, and thanks for making me search links, because that way I noticed that they will give a concert on Friday in Helsinki Ice Hall (now I just hope that there are still tickets left). -- CecilK (talk) 05:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please check the article. Before I wrote here I already added it there. I hope it counts as a reliable source (at least at de.WP it is used that way). Otherwise I will have to search it on yle.fi (where for some reasons I always have troubles finding the charts). -- 82.181.146.7 (talk) 01:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 05:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 05:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.