Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rain (Dragon song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Insert CleverPhrase Here 11:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rain (Dragon song)

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No indication of Notability per WP:GNG or WP:MUSIC. Unreferenced. Insert CleverPhrase Here 03:48, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:06, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If it had peaked at number 2 and spent 26 weeks on a national chart that would certainly be an indication of notability, but this and this suggest that didn't happen. --Michig (talk) 07:55, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- australian-charts.com is a terrible source that doesn't seem to include the Kent Music Report, which was the mainstream chart for many years. IME it's actively unhelpful - David Gerard (talk) 09:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

David Gerard: just a comment, but the Hung Medien chart websites depend on being able to license the information from various chart companies in each country... some countries are complete, others are only allowed to reproduce charts from that particular country within a certain timeframe. I don't know what the situation is with the Kent Music Report charts: I imagine David Kent wants to keep the information off the net so that as many people as possible buy his books. Richard3120 (talk) 23:29, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A note to this effect should probably be added to WP:BADCHARTS - David Gerard (talk) 05:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia_talk:Record_charts#the_problem_with_australian-charts.com re this problem - David Gerard (talk) 16:03, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep what the hell, this hit #2 in Australia, was in the charts for ages and was #15 best seller of the year. See List of Top 25 singles for 1983 in Australia. Source for that article is David Kent's Australian Chart Book 1970-1992. Also Billboard Hot 100 #88 - David Gerard (talk) 09:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect~~ to Dragon discography#Singles. Chart placing is legit, but with so little sourced content, a redirect is appropriate. --Michig (talk) 10:03, 9 October 2016 (UTC) Actually, a redirect from this title would be pretty useless, an entry at Rain (disambiguation) would suffice unless sources beyond chart positions can be found that could be used to usefully expand the article. --Michig (talk) 10:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Would prefer discography redirect, but either is fine if we have 0 sources about the song. (The sources will definitely exist ... on paper ... in Australia.) - David Gerard (talk) 10:26, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Have added sources to the article confirming the charting... Interested editors can add content about the song from the sources I've added. Lourdes 13:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't believe the new sources give much scope for expansion, but thank you for finding them. I have no objection to it being kept. --Michig (talk) 18:10, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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