Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raffaello Degruttola

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Doczilla _{@SUPERHEROLOGIST} 06:02, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Raffaello Degruttola

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

i fail to see how Degruttola meets WP:NACTOR or any other film related criteria - yes, he was involved in some films that were nominated or appeared in festivals, but it was through his production company (which may or may not be notable).

Almost all of his roles are minor roles that are barely even mentioned anywhere outside of listings like imdb and BFI. Aside from his marriage to a notable actress, there is a total dearth of in depth, meaningful coverage of him. PRAXIDICAE🌈 23:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Entering Bastard Helper From Hell mode:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120717063055/http://www.simonelahbib.net/biography.html is useless for notability (too sparse, connexion to subject). Barely discusses Degruttola, and is on his SO's official website in any event.
We can't use https://www.blowoutmagazine.com/other-stuff/2020/10/28/raffaello-degruttola (Unknown provenance, connexion to subject). Interview with no byline.
We can't use https://raindance.org/2014-moet-british-independent-film-awards-nominations/ (Unknown provenance, too sparse). This is a list of nominations for an award which is likely not notability-granting in and of itself, film festival awards are obscenely common.
We can't use https://mentalideas.org/portfolio/ambassador-raffaello-degruttola/ (unknown provenance, no editorial oversight). No byline or any listed editor-in-chief or editorial policy. This applies to all other Mental Ideas cites as well.
We can't use https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2bbc49677c (too sparse). Content-free listing.
https://balance.media/raffaello-degruttola/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). He wrote the source in question.
http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/no-way-home is useless for notability (too sparse). Film listings are, as a rule, absolutely worthless as notability sources.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transference_a_love_story is useless for this article (wrong subject). This is just a bare RT metaranking.
We can't use http://www.filmfestivalarizona.com/film-detail.php?id=890 (too sparse). Even if we don't discount the director's blurb, this is far too short to cite.
https://www.ok.co.uk/lifestyle/eastenders-katy-simone-husband-famous-23110242 is useless for notability (too sparse) and I strongly suspect, being unfamiliar with British magazines, that this is a gossip mag (no editorial oversight).
We can't use https://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/raffaello-degruttola/credits/3030398545/ (too sparse). Content-free listing of his films.
We can't use https://www.fandango.com/diana-165668/cast-and-crew (too sparse). Credits listings do not help a whit for notability.
We can't use https://www.dvdlocker.com/movies/movie.php?mid=0096679 (too sparse). Same issues as the British Council Film Directory.
We can't use https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/raffaello-degruttola/ (too sparse). Yet Another Fucking Content-Free Listing (YAFCFL).
We can't use https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/46512/the-borgias-2x10-the-confession/cast (too sparse). YAFCFL.
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/30/1022210711/ted-lasso-recap-season-2-the-prodigal-beefcake?t=1651165745500 is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop.
https://www.memorabletv.com/episodes/father-brown-the-final-devotion-s9ep5-abc-tv-sat-23-april-2022/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop.

Nothing I see here is in any way, shape, or form usable. No comment on the print source other than to say that even if it were acceptable it cannot itself save the article. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 01:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Italy, and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 07:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Degruttola is the lead actor in House of 9 (just added), and Citizen Verdict, as well as supporting roles in many large movies.

- Film festival awards maybe obscenely common, but some are considered to be prestigious - including the British Film Festival, and Raindance and nominations are considered prestigious too.

- Will look for more citations.

Otherwise, should this be a stub? Rafffan (talk) 00:04, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations in and of themselves do not help for notability unless there are a LOT of them. Just two nominations are no good notability-wise. House of 9 has absolutely abysmal sourcing (and it, too, seems like it would be a perfect AfD candidate barring more professional film reviews). Supporting roles are irrelevant. There is no chance this becomes a stub - once again, at best we only have one plausible source, which means WP:Notability has not been met (since the subject doesn't meet WP:NACTOR so far as I can tell otherwise). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:04, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I was involved at an early stage when I had to ask the author to stop canvassing editors in favour of their latest draft. I was convinced at the time that this SPA was writing an autobiography. I was surprised to see it elevated into mainspace since I can see no evidence that the subject is in any way notable. Fails WP:GNG. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 18:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.