Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio Entreolas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Weighing the policy based rationales given, consensus is to keep this radio station. The population of the town it serves, the ownership and similar factors are not a part of policy, so really can't be considered. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:51, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Entreolas

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It is not possible to independently establish the notability of the radio station serving a small-town (pop.13000). Sources used are a mention in a local newspaper from the same town and a link to a pdf listing the the radio as "admissible" to state subsidies. The local newspaper, El Marino (not to confuse with the defunct newspaper of the same name), mentions the radio station frequently but is it enough? In small community of 13000 poeple (Pichilemu) there can be plenty of cross-references, but zooming out to a regional or national level references are practically non-existent. Sietecolores (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC) Sietecolores (talk) 11:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 12:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The radio passes notability guidelines. I suggest you withdraw this biased nomination, and stop this behavior. If you nominate just one more Pichilemu-related article, I will report you to the administrators' noticeboard for disrupting the project Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 13:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't make threats, and don't argue ad hominem. Discuss the issue instead. Kraxler (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] [2] [3] A couple of refs from non-Pichilemu sources. There are more in print, in El Cóndor, a newspaper of Santa Cruz; that, excluding local sources such as pichilemunews, El Expreso and El Marino (my newspaper, but nothing else), which have provided extensive coverage to the radio. One of its most important stages was during the 27 February 2010 earthquake emergency, it was the only radio that broadcasted in the area for several days, because of the power outage that affected much of Chile. BTW, the radio has a provincial audience (+60,000 people), not just in-town. Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 01:14, 6 September 2015 (UTC) User:Diego Grez-Cañete is the creator of this article. Disclosure added per WP:AFDFORMAT.[reply]

None of the three refs mention Radio Entreolas. Kraxler (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course the name does not appear by simply looking at the URL ;-) --Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 00:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, the name is "Radio Entre Olas", you should correct the spelling. All three refs contain trivial mentions of the name. Kraxler (talk) 00:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In fact they use, indistinctively, "Entreolas", "EntreOlas" and "Entre Olas". As for the rest, well, whatever, I'm sorry it isn't a New York radio!! Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 01:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:04, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete an article without any encyclopedic relevance. --Keysanger (talk) 12:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could you please elaborate (this and your other similar comments)? Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 03:32, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: per WP:BROADCAST and WP:OUTCOMES#Broadcast media. Sources provided do not get the station past GNG but do confirm that the station is licensed and originates content, consensus is that such entities are notable. Vrac (talk) 14:54, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good point. But how do we know that it is licensed? The only (primary) source in the article shows that it is mentioned in a list of entities "admissible to receive funds" from the government. I'd like to see something more conclusive, which says something like "this is the license to operate a radio station". Kraxler (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly I was making an inference there. I presume that because it is eligible for subsidy from the government that it is licensed by same. Vrac (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The government of Chile is very strict when it comes to unlicensed radio stations, they simply force them to shut down. Here you have a list of licensed radio stations, provided by the Telecommunications Subsecretariat [4] --Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 14:05, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We mustn't infere, we need to ascertain, Vrac. Thanks for the link, Diego. Kraxler (talk) 14:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have to disagree with you there. It's highly implausible (if not inconceivable) that Chilean government agencies would subsidize an illegal radio station. Vrac (talk) 17:37, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. There is a financial conflict of interest since the radio is sponsor of "El Marino" website, owned by Diego Grez-Cañete [5]. --Warko ^talk 20:31, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Prove it is a sponsor. That does not say anything. ;-) Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Rather I would say there is little independence of the subject. Writing about subject X in your local newspaper does not make X notable. Sietecolores (talk) 05:22, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - passes WP:BROADCAST ("Radio stations") - the link provided by Diego confirms that it is a licensed radio station. The sources show that it has original programming. Kraxler (talk) 14:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.